Wednesday, May 29, 2002 8:06 AM

I keep hearing mixed reports about Mean Streak this year. Is it true that the brakes have come off this coaster?? Some people are saying it is back and good as ever and others have written that it is just okay?!

The first year it was open it had no trim brakes and truly was "mean" then they added the brakes and it really became lame.

I have read several times recently that the ride is packing a punch this year again, but I haven't heard any confirmation of brakes being taken off the ride or not.

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Wednesday, May 29, 2002 8:24 AM

I've been to CP twice this season so far (Opening Day, May 5, and Thursday, May 16. Both times the trim on the first drop was activated. It wasn't catching as hard as it was last year, but it was catching. The midcourse brakes caught really hard.

The braking makes the ride a bit smoother, but cuts back on the speed. This, naturally, affects the amount of airtime.

I've also read posts where people have said the trims were off. I'm beginning to think, as posted on GTTP, that it's a hit or miss kind of thing, possibly due to the weight and speed of the train. The heavier/faster the train is moving, the harder the trims catch.

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Wednesday, May 29, 2002 8:34 AM
Basically, it's just a huge hunk of wood in the back that is fun to ride. I only received airtime twice last weekend, the trims caught everytime......but, I'll give it this: It's a great LONG ride with less than a 15 min. wait. Much smoother than years past, too.

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There's nothing like a woodie...

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Wednesday, May 29, 2002 8:36 AM

The trims may have been "let up" a bit, but the ride is still a big waste of wood. In a few spots you begin to feel the train accelerate like something's going to happen. Nothing happens.

On the bright side, it seems like the trains aren't running on all "square" wheels this year. I guess, they put on a few "round" ones.

All in all, the ride is tolerable, but still, dull and unremarkable.

Woody

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Wednesday, May 29, 2002 8:41 AM

Thanks - this is great feedback. I guess it does depend on the weight of the train, etc.

It is a beautiful ride to look at!

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Wednesday, May 29, 2002 8:46 AM

One of the worst roller coasters in history. Takes up alot of space and offers no airtime at all.With all the space it takes up , you could tear it down and put two CCI's in its place.Are you listening CP?

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Wednesday, May 29, 2002 8:54 AM

Ouch Bat Rider - it isn't that bad! The first drop is good, but you are right two CCI's would be awesome!!

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Wednesday, May 29, 2002 9:07 AM

That awful Summers-Dinn "creativity". Sure Herc, RWB and MS look nice, but basically once you take away the initial drop they aimlessly wander around a course, trains shuffling side to side.....you need drops and changes in speed throughout a ride to keep it interesting.....Denise Dinn-Larrick, may have learned something from "dear old dad", but I think what's good for us is that she learned what NOT to do....

bill, readying for the incoming volley.....

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Wednesday, May 29, 2002 9:11 AM
Do I hear a racing/ dueling coaster in our midst? Whatever, CP will not tear any coaster down unless it has the words Swartzkopf on it (pretty much, they just move those around)......but the tallest, fastest wooden racing/dueling coaster doesn't sound that bad at all.....to be honest. Especially if it comes from the loins of CCI or GCI. The only two things I want at the Point is a CCI or GCI and an Arrow Wild Mouse........I've said it for two years now.......the thing about it is I'm not spending a lot of their money, either. (only about $5-6 million, WT cost $12 million alone). Mean Streak is great to look at, fun to ride, but not that fun to wait more than 15 minutes for, even on a busy day.

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Wednesday, May 29, 2002 9:11 AM
Summers-Dinn cam e through on one of the best woodies ever- Texas Giant. I have no complaints on their performance there. I suggest a ride on TG before a total bash of the company.
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Wednesday, May 29, 2002 9:18 AM

Woody said:
CP will not tear any coaster down unless it has the words Swartzkopf on it (pretty much, they just move those around)......The only two things I want at the Point is a CCI or GCI and an Arrow Wild Mouse........


Hey now...that's way below the belt. Why'd you have to bring Schwarzkopf. into this? Why? Why? That was more painful than a MS ride straddling a catcus. We'll never forget you (Wild) Rails and Zambezi Zinger.

By Arrow Mouse, did you mean Mad Mouse or ArrowBatic? Because you can back your pickup truck to VF's Mad Mouse, hook it to your trailer hitch and take off. We'll gladly trade you for your....you know, mouse made by....sniff....now look what you made me do....too choked up to speak....

-'Playa


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Wednesday, May 29, 2002 9:27 AM
phydeux, haven't been on TG, and I really liked Thunder Run.....it's when they got "creative" in design and layout that I think their rides suffer from the inevitable trim brakes and complaints of roughness.....not all S-D coasters are bad, not in any way.....but the layouts I mentioned, I will argue were destined to become "bad" coasters....again, only my opinion....
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Wednesday, May 29, 2002 10:05 AM

Yo Playa, don't hate! Did you actually read my post or just get offended when the word Swartzkopf came up? What is the only RC that has been torn down or moved at Cedar Point in the last 30 years? Jumbo Jet and Wildcat. No matter how much I love "The General" (affectionately named), they are easily transported from park to park/ place to place.......what I meant was, there is no way that CP will tear down Mean Streak.

And the Wild Mouse? I don't care, just build it. I really enjoyed Reverchon's "Exterminator" and Mack's Wild Mouse at Hershey, but just build one, OK? And soon......it's not like I'm spending a Millenium's amount here. Lastly, I really hope Jeff is right. "Building the wooden coaster (CCI/ GCI)" or the boardwalk idea. It just won't be next to the campground in a place where a coaster "once stood."

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There's nothing like a woodie...

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Wednesday, May 29, 2002 10:10 AM
On my own "modified" version of the Griswold scale, Texas Giant rates as "Crap-Tastic" (a -2, a step up from "Suck-tacular"). Only I repeat ONLY when you sit in the first car does it move up to "Aiight" (a 0; slightly positive experience). Though, if it was run unrestrained, it might be better (but tear itself apart at the same time).

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Besides, if we were really shutting down people we disagreed with, would Jeremy (2Hostyl) still be around? :) I think not. - Jeff 1/24/02

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Wednesday, May 29, 2002 10:18 AM
I feel like a broken record here but MS *used to* be a damn fine coaster. The problem is that D-S coasters tend to age horrifically, and when you combine that with CP not exactly bending over backwards on maintenance for it (Yes, I know they've been retracking it but when's the last time fresh grease was put on that wood?)

I get sick of seeing people say that if "a coaster doesn't have airtime then they should TAER it DOWN!" MS was never meant to be an airtime ride, when it opened it was a speed ride, and a very fun one. *IF* CP wanted to they could easily grease it up, retrack it completely, and let it fly again.

The reason I assume they won't is two-fold.
1) Most GP and Enthusiasts alike complain up a storm if a coaster has fast lateral changes and otherwise "isn't smooth". The MS at top speed *isn't* smooth, it's pretty rough and tumble which I personally liked.

2) The train rips up the *long* track something fierce when it's going full speed and makes continuous high cost maintenance a reality. I think this is the main factor, CP simply doesn't want to continually sink large amounts of cash into the ride to keep it running like it did in 93 (which was in mine and many others opinions the best year for the ride)

The fact of the matter is that MS will continue to be a shadow of it's former self in the years ahead. Maybe I'm wrong and CP will suddenly decide they want to spend thousands every year keeping it running in top form but I'm not holding my breath.

It *is* a shame though, having a coaster that was only built for speed trimmed to death is really a waste. It'd be like having MF magnetically trimmed down the first drop and brought to a halt on the return hill from the island, the entire ride would lose something, and this scenario is basically what's been done to MS.

Ah well, such is life.
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*** This post was edited by Colin W. on 5/29/2002. ***

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Wednesday, May 29, 2002 10:22 AM

First time Mean Streak rider this last Monday (Memorial Day).

UGHHHH!!!! This thing is a joke. Sorry guys, but this is probably the most uncomfortable, no airtime or laterals, worst braking woodie I have ever experienced.

I can sort of understand the brake on the midcourse (still on way to hard), but down the first hill? The trim down the first hill was grabbing hard. The trains shake violently. It was even shaking as we exited the station into the turnaround heading for the lift hill.

Its a shame, because the layout has serious potential.

The only plus of this coaster is the ability to handle capacity. Running 3 trains on a single track woodie is pretty impressive.

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Wednesday, May 29, 2002 10:26 AM

"Is that real tomata ketchup, Eddy?" "Well, nothin' but the best, Clark."

Thanks for the thought, Mister Hostility!

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There's nothing like a woodie...

*** This post was edited by Woody on 5/29/2002. ***

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Wednesday, May 29, 2002 10:26 AM
As much as i love woodies, I don't think I would miss Mean Streak as long as it was replaced by atleast one good woodie. If they replaced it with a B&M or any other steel, I would be sad. Something like Lightning Racer would be perfect!
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Wednesday, May 29, 2002 10:37 AM

Colin W. said:
"CP simply doesn't want to continually sink large amounts of cash into the ride to keep it running like it did in 93 (which was in mine and many others opinions the best year for the ride)
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But I thought wear and tear costs were "just part of the price of running an amusement park". *shooting slant-eyed glances around the forums*

thank you and good bye!

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Wednesday, May 29, 2002 11:01 AM
I to will attest that the MS was a truely great coaster when it was untrimmed. True it was never built for air, but with the speed there were a few places where icncredible air time was achieved.

It seemed to me last Thursday that the mid course breaks were harder than they were last year, which is a shame because when the mids are on to hard the second half of the ride is quite boring. I always felt that out of the trims the last circuit should have been closer to the ground to use up all of that potential energy. Maybe some day the park will re-profile the ride and invest is good trains. Until then we'll have to live with a coaster that lost its prime almost a decade ago.

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