(link shortened -J) *** Edited 1/2/2004 1:48:13 AM UTC by Jeff***
Sea world a near-carnival? LOL!!!!!
On admission- Frankly, they have enough to offer to charge more for admission and season pass and they should do so IMO. The babysitter might as well rob the cradle.
On parking- This guy doesn't get out much or he would know a lot of parks charge a price similar and sometimes more than WOA does. Parking lot coasters don't come cheap.
Rides Not Operating- They should just open them anyways, even if they have problems, are understaffed, or could be unsafe. You just want to ride.
Consession stands not open- Walk to the next one... Maybe you could stand to lose a pound.
Maybe the park should close so you wouldn't have something to complain about... Wait, you probably would.
-Danny, didn't really have any of those problems this year and being sarchastic :)
Obviously not an enthusiast.
Right. In the two years I've lurked around these boards, I've never heard an enthusiast make a ridiculous assertion like that.
We have friends that used to have season passes to Sea World every year and after one visit to SFWoA, they were disappointed in the changes. They realize that the whales weren't part of the deal and that Busch removed them when the park was sold, but what WoA has tried to substitute just doesn't cut it with die-hard Sea World fans.
You know what gets the me the most about "enthusiasts" is that they can ***** about a park all they want and it's ok. But as soon as someone from the general public do it, they are stupid and don't know what they are talking about. It's a free world and everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Frankly, they have enough to offer to charge more for admission and season pass and they should do so IMO.
Last time I went, it was with a free ticket. Frankly, I felt I had been ripped off. I think Mr. Paulson pretty much hit the nail on the head.
But what do I know? Maybe Danny likes poor service, low capacity and the occasional unsafe condition.
*** Edited 1/2/2004 1:11:28 AM UTC by Gemini***
Danny seems to be smart. He actually doesn't let things get to him. He sees that there are rides at this park , which are the reason all of us go. He rides them , he finds some food , and he enjoys himself. I'm the same way. It doesn't matter to me how crappy everything seems , it's how the rides are.
Make jokes in line , play games at the park , sit down and enjoy the sights. Don't concentrate on the negative crap as hard as you can.
TPDOM , proud member of the SFKK fan club.
Bash me , flame me all you want , somebody else will have my outlook as well *** Edited 1/2/2004 1:22:36 AM UTC by thepinkdoomofmonkeys***
Maybe I should have a bad time so I can dislike it like everyone else. I feel so out of the loop... :-\
-Danny, who knows we would have nothing to talk about if the park were to ever be "decent"
All of the I hate/I like doesn't change the reality that one park declined 7% (on top of big losses the year before), and its two Ohio competitors were both up 3% this year.
You don't have to be a math whiz to see there's obviously a problem there. If the park was so fine and dandy, clearly it would be prospering like its friends to the west and south.
Koaster King said:
SFWOA never promised SeaWorld... they promised a Wildlife side on top of their Six Flags Ohio park. If whales were promised and they didn't get any, that would be a problem. But there were no whales and if they were disappointed in that, it's their problem. Just because I expect a new waterpark to have a wavepool, doesn't mean it will have it or that I should be upset with the park if they didn't have one.
Actually, if they are not happy, it is Six Flag's problem, not the park patron. People have a certain expectation from a park when they spend their money there, and if the park does not meet that expectation, then the custumer is simply going to find another place to stend the money. That is how a free market economy works.
Are you sure the problem isn't that CP spent $35+ over two years on major park attractions, PKI spent millions on three fairly huge attractions, and SFWOA didn't spend money on anything much besides a few used flats being moved and waterpark additions? Why are all the other Six Flags parks down? It's not a special isolated problem to WOA no matter how much you try to make it be. Since when is SFWOA in competition with PKI? Shouldn't that be SFKK's problem?
People should know what to expect from a park and no go blindly to it. If SFWOA doesn't have whales, go to the ocean or go to a real SeaWorld park in Florida. It's not like SF should care since it isn't competition with WOA. Good deal.
Good customer service doesn't have the "immediacy of impact", but if (granted, it's an IF), SF really has figured out that their main problems lie in the "customer service" areas of personnel and operations, then the *trend* of decreasing atendance will turn around....you don't gain OR lose hundreds of thousands of customers overnight....;)
I think most of it has to do with additions. I wouldn't have gone back to CP this year if it wasn't for TTD. I expect their attendance would have been down 3% or so if they didn't add anything. I'm sure SF is looking at GAm and GAdv more puzzled in attendance drops than the WOA drop this season. WOA dropped 2% more than GAm and likely spent much much less on additions.
-Danny *** Edited 1/2/2004 2:46:54 AM UTC by Koaster King***
Coasterman Mike - Yawn... getting tired of this egregious argument
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