Led Zeppelin – The Ride: Test run video

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:33 PM
And the lyrics "I wanna be your backdoor man" is conservative?

Chuck, I don't disagree with you at all that this could be the "tourist-trap" amusement park--strictly relying on a name and not delivering that much in thrills.

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Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:38 PM
^Well, (stolen lyrics that they are), yes quite dirty! How about "squeeze my lemon"?

But Sabbath are just one of those bands that have a very dark thing over their heads. They are on of the top bands to not listen to on some conservative site.

There is this great conservative site (well, great meaning rediculous) that lists bands your kids should NOT listen to. And they say all this "he's gay" and crap like that.

But they list Elton John, Cyndi Lauper and Blondie as OK for you kids to listen to (love them all btw.) Kinda ignorant.

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Wednesday, December 19, 2007 9:30 AM
At least Elton John is okay to listen to, being completely straight and all ;)

Stupid conservatives... I wish someone could explain to me why an artist is "bad" because he/she is gay. Something tells me I'll be rolling my eyes...

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Wednesday, December 19, 2007 11:01 AM
Vater's avatar Please don't lump all conservatives in the 'stupid conservatives' group. I'm conservative, but I don't condone the idiocy that J7G3 described. Statements like that could foster heated discussion identical to the 'stereotyping of Americans' rants in that recent news thread. One thread of that is quite enough. :)

As for Zeppelin, I can see why anyone would think they are overrated. If it's not your bag, you're probably going to think that. I'm not a big fan of the Beatles, however I appreciate them for their musicianship, originality, and the fact that they are one of the--if not the--most influential rock band of all time. Zeppelin falls in that category as well, and I'd go as far as to say they were (and are) every bit as influential as the Beatles. I personally think they were better players, and wrote better songs.

I am a Zeppelin fanatic, even moreso now than when I first got into them in high school. Most of their stuff is brilliant...although I agree many of their songs are far too overplayed ('Whole Lotta Love' moreso than most). I think the song fits the coaster pretty well, but holy cow...I can't imagine listening to it (especially just the breakdown part to the outro that they play during the ride) over and over while I'm in that section of the park. I'd resort to bashing my skull against concrete after the 47th cycle.

Edit: Oh yeah, and I do like Floyd, but I can't see a coaster themed to them. A carrousel, maybe? Lazy river? ;) *** Edited 12/19/2007 4:03:28 PM UTC by Vater***

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Wednesday, December 19, 2007 11:13 AM
I should have been more specific... I didn't mean "stupid conservatives" as a whole, I was referring to the "stupid" conversatives that J7G3 had mentioned. Sorry for the confusion.

As I said before, I completely respect Led Zeppelin for what they've done. It's not even like I hate the band- if one of their (overplayed) songs comes on the radio, chances are I'll listen instead of switching to a new station, putting on a CD or firing up the iPod. Personally, I just don't understand why some people feel compelled to elevate the band above others from that time. The Who, The Doors, Pink Floyd, Hendrix, Clapton, the Rolling Stones... the list goes on, and I don't think Zep rises above any of them in particular.

As for a Pink Floyd ride, that would be a trip (pun intended). Can you imagine how much better The Dark Knight would be if the interior of the building featured a Dark Side of the Moon-style lazer light show and CGI imagery?

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Wednesday, December 19, 2007 12:04 PM
^I'm with you too Rob, I didn't lump all conservatives together. If my words were miscalculated, that's not what I meant.

Floyd? Then you'd have the problem of people popping, snorting, and smoking things in the que before the ride.

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Wednesday, December 19, 2007 12:17 PM

Intamin Fan said:And the lyrics "I wanna be your backdoor man" is conservative? Chuck, I don't disagree with you at all that this could be the "tourist-trap" amusement park--strictly relying on a name and not delivering that much in thrills.

Im glad someone else brought that up. It's a song about ANAL SEX. However The park makes it clear that it's not CONSERVATIVE, I don't know where you got that, In their links they got KICK ASS JOBS, Kick ASS Perks ect. I was a little confused at the FAMILY nature of the park myself but I see that it's ROCK and ROLL and pretty much in ROCK AND ROLL, ANYTHING GOES!

Chuck

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Wednesday, December 19, 2007 1:35 PM
Mamoosh's avatar If Hard Rock Park is truly "not conservative" I expect to see a ride called the Gender Bender in the 1970's section someday ;)

mOOSH (come on...you gotta admit that's a great name for a ride!)

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Wednesday, December 19, 2007 1:56 PM
rollergator's avatar ^Bowie music? Fine by me! :)
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Wednesday, December 19, 2007 2:26 PM
Pretty good one Moosh, I know Zep was a huge hit but IMHO they are one of the smaller of the much longer lasting and many more hit bands. Stones, Queen, Aerosmith to name a few, The Who. Floyd, Hell even Cheap Trick. Van Halen *Pre Hagar* The Eagles (Largely a folk/Country and Western) even had more ROCK hits than Zepplin

This is debatable by all, Zep's no stranger and widely recognized so it fits the bill.

However if it's HARD ROCK PARK I expect it to be that HARD ROCK. The Rock and Roll hall of fame IMHO has greatly lost it's sence of direction with the addition of Maddona and artist like her and Rap Artist *** Edited 12/19/2007 7:29:14 PM UTC by Charles Nungester***

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Wednesday, December 19, 2007 3:16 PM
I don't think Zep had any hits, proper. Meaning, they were never listed on Billboard, etc., b/c they never had singles. They thought the record should come as a whole. And those old songs, have stood the test of time, they have become more and more popular over the years.

Same thing with another all time great band, the Ramones. Now that 3 are gone, funny how super popular they suddenly are. Wow, that was fast. Right after Joey died, 2 songs were on major commercials. It's like so 'uncool' yet cool the band finally have their time (even though 3 original members are in rock heaven).

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Wednesday, December 19, 2007 3:21 PM

Mamoosh said:
Influential? Yes.

Important part of rock history? Absolutely!

Worthy of having a coaster named/themed after them? Of course.

Overrated? If some people think so isn't it their right to hold that opinion? And didn't you claim to respect people's opinions on page 5 in the thread about Mitch's poll

What "church" are you a man of? Church of Hypocrite?

*** Edited 12/18/2007 12:57:51 PM UTC by Mamoosh***


First off, You dont worry about my church.
Secondly, I just dont believe someone could really say Led Zepplin is overrated. That is like saying Millineum Force is overrated! Just silly thinking on your part.


Top 5, in no particular order: 1. MF 2. Maverick, 3. Kraken 3. El Toro, 4. TTD 5. Superman Krypton Coaster Top overrated coasters: 1. Incredible Hulk (Boooooring!) 2. Nitro 3. Expedition G-force 4. Goliath(SFMM) 5. Any Dive Coaster
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Wednesday, December 19, 2007 3:33 PM
^^^Funny you should say that! I think Millie is totally overrated!

8 hills. Yes, high and fast, but that's about it. Yes, it's a great ride, but very overrated I think. I'd much rather ride Magnum. Or hell, any of the Intamin Superman coasters.

But hey, we all got our own opinions and likes/dislikes. I just think 'hype' really works in terms of Amusement Parks.

Whenever I talk to someone I don't know well, and they find out I'm into parks/coasters, the first thing most people say is: "Ever been to Cedar Point!!!!???"

I think the place as a whole is overrated. Of course, I did live there 3 summers, and I don't think they have put anything very good in since I've been gone. (and what they did to my beloved Blue Streak is just nasty - I know I know, can't get over it.)

I got some great pics when I worked on the ride, I should post them or do an article some time.

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Wednesday, December 19, 2007 3:37 PM

manofthechurch said:

Mamoosh said:Influential? Yes. Important part of rock history? Absolutely!Worthy of having a coaster named/themed after them? Of course.Overrated? If some people think so isn't it their right to hold that opinion? And didn't you claim to respect people's opinions on page 5 in the thread about Mitch's pollWhat "church" are you a man of? Church of Hypocrite? *** Edited 12/18/2007 12:57:51 PM UTC by Mamoosh***
First off, You dont worry about my church.Secondly, I just dont believe someone could really say Led Zepplin is overrated. That is like saying Millineum Force is overrated! Just silly thinking on your part.

MF is way over rated in my opinion. To each their own and quit demeening people on their views *SILLY* quote.

Thank you
Chuck

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Wednesday, December 19, 2007 3:38 PM

J7G3 said:
Floyd? Then you'd have the problem of people popping, snorting, and smoking things in the que before the ride.

And you think that's not going to happen with any other ride themed to a classic rock band's work? ;)


Mamoosh said:
If Hard Rock Park is truly "not conservative" I expect to see a ride called the Gender Bender in the 1970's section someday

Maybe that's a good theming possibility for Mindbender?


manofthechurch said:
I just dont believe someone could really say Led Zepplin is overrated. That is like saying Millineum Force is overrated! Just silly thinking on your part.

I don't believe someone would call himself "man of the church" and then proceed to issue an insult drowning in so many words spelled incorrectly. But you went ahead and did both, so it must be true.

*** Edited 12/19/2007 8:40:10 PM UTC by Rob Ascough***

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Wednesday, December 19, 2007 3:41 PM
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Charles Nungester said:
Pretty good one Moosh, I know Zep was a huge hit but IMHO they are one of the smaller of the much longer lasting and many more hit bands.

As already noted Zep didn't issue singles so they didn't have "hits" per se. But they've sold more than 300 million albums world wide and still going strong, a number that 100% decimates many of the other bands you listed. LOL at Cheap Trick.

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Wednesday, December 19, 2007 3:44 PM
Mamoosh's avatar Just silly thinking on your part.

You don't know me at all, do you? lol

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Wednesday, December 19, 2007 3:47 PM
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manofthechurch said:
First off, You dont worry about my church.
Secondly, I just dont believe someone could really say Led Zepplin is overrated. That is like saying Millineum Force is overrated! Just silly thinking on your part.

LOL! We're getting into pancake territory, aren't we?

I think both Zep and MF are overrated for the most part.

For bonus points, I also think church is overrated too. :)

Three things I don't waste much time with. What do I win?


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Wednesday, December 19, 2007 3:48 PM

Lord Gonchar said:


For bonus points, I also think church is overrated too.


Good call ;)

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Wednesday, December 19, 2007 4:00 PM
^Well, such may be the case. But who's more 'cool'? Cheap Trick or Led Zep?

Ramones (Iggy, Damned, Suicide) or Green Day (offspring, Nirvana)?

Blondie or Madonna (No Doubt, Courtney Love, Sounds, Garbage)?

Devo (Kraftwerk) or the White Stripes (Hives, Killers)?

Led Zep is big, most people have a Zep song that they like (usually one of 4). When your on a pedestal, people will buy what you have. Cedar Point is on nearly ever coaster docu show on Discovery, etc.

Cedar Point (SFMM, SFGAd) or Holidayworld (Indiana Beach, Kennywood, Hershey)??

It's pretty clear who's the 'Cream' here (pun intented).

But just my opinion ..... but funny how people know how to make you buy stuff (A&F, Northface, and Gap come to mind, Cedar Point, Six Flags, Madonna and the once very cool Stones...) *** Edited 12/20/2007 2:12:16 AM UTC by J7G3***

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