Knoebels announces they are working on a classic!

BTW, how was the GCI tour for anyone who went? I just couldn't get myself motivated to head back up that way again. Didn't make it to the tour or the park.

The GCII tour was fantastic. The almost-complete Beech Bend train was a sight to behold. What a work of art those trains are, even before they start to resemble trains!

How about the free coaster? Did it fit in the trunk?

I have to agree on Twister delivering some great rides during PPP I spent a lot of time riding Twister that day and I normally only take about 2 or 3 laps on it during a trip.

I must be the only one who thought Twister was a tad sluggish.

What is _the_ seat on Twister? I rode it 6 times and it seemed different in every seat. Some were rough, some were smooth as silk.

And to keep this on topic, the flying turns sounds like an awesome idea.

Coasterpunk, I think it was you I was avoiding like the plague on the bumper cars. You were seriously f-ing people up!

Twister...sluggish? I was getting air where I rarely found it previously, especially post-helix. I thought it was running extgremely well.

And "the seat"? I say 2.1

My preferences are second row from either the front or back. You can translate that into seats.

I don't know, maybe my memory is failing me, but I remember it ripping through the course post helix so fast that I couldn't tell what just happened let alone see what was coming next. Saturday night I had time to think about what was coming next.

But I am comparing it against itself, so it was still far better than more than half of the woodies I have been on.

Lets not forget that Knoebels heart is a lumber company and the surroundings to support it. They've waited 5 years since building Twister for more reasons than one and of course they've added to the park since then also with various rides and attractions.

A family run park that grows every year in both attendance and atractions is definetly doing something right.

It didn't take me too long to GET IT at Knoebels, So much so that I've been the 600 miles three times since 2001 and have plans to return soon.

Chuck, Camp, ride, swim, camp, ride, swim, camp, ride, ride, ride, ride. KNOEBELS@

I thought that Twister was delivering its best rides EVER. Like Moosh said, there was air in spots where there was never air before. It was fast, smooth- everything I expect from Twister but... more.

WOW. That's all I can think of to say really.

If this comes off do you think they'll build us a modern day wood wild mouse and/or virginia reel next?

I can't take credit for this, since I saw it mentioned on-- ahem, another site-- so don't go thinking that I'm all brainy or something.

But what do you think Knoebels is going to do about the trains for the Turns?

Actually, the Mack trains are a pretty good modern update on the Flying Turns trains. The Intamins are NOT.

I would describe the original rides as intense, but smooth (although it's been 37 years since I've been on one)

Mike

Knoebels will deal with another company on the vehicles if they are not able to take care of that in-house.

How was PPP, BTW? I haven't heard any commentary about the event and really hated to miss it.

Did the weather cooperate? I'd heard rain and cold but it seems to ALWAYS be rainy and cold for PPP.

How many people were there?

Barry J.

Cold. And very rainy. Attendance was 729, a far cry from the past few PPPs. Kinda felt like old times... was fun.

Usually the Costume Parade is a definite highlight.

What were some of the great costumes? Who won?

BJW

...back to the Flying Turns.

The wooden track on the old Flying Turns were made of Cypress wood, which is one of the most durable woods. It will naturally resist insects and chemical corrosion as well as decay.

Now, I haven't read anywhere that Knoebel's plans to use Cypress wood, but if their plans are to recreate a Miller/Bartlett Flying Turns, then I suppose that will be what they use.

I also heard they were reviewing old blueprints but I am still not sure whether this means they will be recreating a previously built FT, or designing their own. Anyone know?

If they were to rebuild a classic, I would have to go with the Euclid Beach version. A high ride with lot's of dips and turns. I have been working on an old video of the ride which were basically a bunch of outtakes. I've had to do a lot of editing and slowing it down to try and get the speed right. This would be an incredible ride to experience from what I have seen.

aerial photo of EBFT:
http://members.aol.com/wecorhsc/euclid_turnsair.jpg

Most people might prefer the Palisades Park, Lake Placid Bobsled but I have read that it was a pretty violent ride. It had a mean looking first drop but a much shorter ride than Euclids.

aerial photo of LPB
http://members.aol.com/wecorhsc/LPB_aerial.jpg

Here is a nice article on Flying Turns.
http://home.nyc.rr.com/johnmiller/turns.html

That postcard from Euclid Beach is also in the book "The American Roller Coaster" by Scott Rutherford. The book includes a good write-up about various Flying Turns rides. It says that the Lake Placid was pretty violent and had a lot of rider complaints and injuries. It also says that FT rides were so intense that the parks learned to keep a supply of "dry seat cushions" on hand. Hmmmm.

That aerial view of the Euclid Beach one is wild. The frame supporting the first loop extends over the lift hill, am I seeing that right? Now that would be one ride to recreate.

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Rob Ascough said:
And if you've ever been to the park, you'd know that a bobsled belongs there like a tumble bug belongs in Disney's Animal Kingdom.

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OMG, AK is getting a tumble bug!??!?!

Frickin' sweet!