Kinzel hints at 2011 ride in Sandusky Register

Friday, July 16, 2010 7:55 PM

Well, now that someone else has revealed the rumor, I want to point out that high winds seem to be a pretty big problem at Cedar Point, and although I really, REALLY, want them to install a ride like this, I fear that it could go down a lot. The sky ride, and some of coasters, go down sometimes because of high winds at times.

But I may be worrying for nothing. I don't know or remember the numbers. I'm just going on experience with working there. I also really don't know for sure how a Starflyer type ride would perform in higher-than-normal winds.

It's just a concern that I have, if this rumor proves to be true.

On the other hand, a Starflyer would get me back to the park, finally.

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Friday, July 16, 2010 10:03 PM

The issue of high winds won't be a problem....but then again with some companies you just never know how things are going to turn out. :)

Last edited by mlnem4s, Friday, July 16, 2010 10:06 PM
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Friday, July 16, 2010 10:15 PM

If that's what CP is building, I for one will enjoy the heck out of it. One of the features of the ride is that because of the large diameter and resulting high speed, it generates enough force to be largely insensitive to wind. I rode the one in Orlando in a somewhat scary cross-wind.

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

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Friday, July 16, 2010 10:23 PM

A new coaster for Cedar Point would be nice, but not necessary, God knows. A Starflyer would be a good draw, certainly unique to this part of the country, anyway. (I was ready to put my money on a really great, world's largest ZacSpin coaster where Demon Drop was located, but I guess now that signs point to no.)

Starflyers are scary, my experience includes the one on I Drive at night in the bitter cold and daytime rides on smaller ones at fairs. All I have to do is look at the photos of the new one at Weiner Prater and I get nervous.

Cedar Point has a way of saying "We'd like one of those, but make it the (fill in record-breaking ...est adverb here) ". So if they should order, lets say, the world's tallest Starflyer ride they would surely have to take a couple of things into consideration, not the least of which would be wind. I picture a version of the ride with rigid arms and more stationary seats, kind of like Insanity in Las Vegas, which might allow it to operate in stronger winds. (Even on a calm day I'd feel better about it - there's something about those little stack chairs held on by chains that make me say yikes)

The central tower on the one at Weiner Prater looks ridiculously solid, which would be a good thing, but the arms and rotating parts look delicate by comparison. A couple of years ago I happened to attend Cedar Point on a day where the freak windstorm was so ferocious that most high rides and coasters didnt operate. What did run all day, surprisingly, was Power Tower, telling me that tall tower rides must be safer and able to withstand more than I would have guessed.

Vienna's ride is something like 117 meters tall which includes, I'm sure, the elaborate top, and riders swing out at a height of 300 ft or so. If a similar or taller ride is placed in the suspected location it would match or exceed the height of the park's nearby iconic Space Spiral, which may be kind of strange visually.

Capacity might be another factor for Cedar Point with their amazing crowds, which also makes me think a different seating arrangement might be in order. (I always pictured a standard Starflyer as an upcharge Challenge Park kind of experience, but I said the same thing about the Screamin Swing, so...there!)

Last edited by RCMAC, Friday, July 16, 2010 10:46 PM
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Saturday, July 17, 2010 12:17 AM

I don't see where a ride like that could pay for itself as an upcharge attraction. That was the big problem with Vertigo(ne). Before it fell down, they were getting $10 per head and shooting it with two or three (of possibly six) riders on every launch and clearly that was more than people were willing to pay. But it took four or five people to run it, so it ended up costing more to operate than it brought in. I'd think that a Star Flyer-type ride would be able to support an even lower per-rider cost. It's definitely a P-O-P ride.

But I don't see any reason why there couldn't be more sweeps. Besides, with double seats that's 32 riders per cycle anyway. I think that's better than Wicked Twister, and the ride would be more popular than Chaos. Capacity wise it wouldn't be too far off from maXair or Skyhawk. And when was the last time you had to wait for Wave Swinger or Ocean Motion?

Of the rumors I have seen here, this is the one I like the most :). Which probably means it's also the least likely to actually happen. :(

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

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Wednesday, July 21, 2010 12:44 PM

Here's something to poke a slow burning fire: It's been reported on Pointbuzz that Ocean Motion is now up for sale. I'm guessing this ends the idea of moving Ocean Motion to where Demon Drop once stood.

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Wednesday, July 21, 2010 12:46 PM

Nope. Someone on PB just suggested that they might move OM to DD's site while it's for sale. (!)

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Wednesday, July 21, 2010 12:47 PM

The new woodie is going in Demon Drop's spot but not until 2012. They're going to give that section of the park a theme make-over with a Spanish appeal. The name of the racing/dueling GCI will be Clupea Rojo.

Last edited by Mamoosh, Wednesday, July 21, 2010 12:49 PM
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Wednesday, July 21, 2010 12:49 PM

Stop teasing Mamoosh! ;)

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Wednesday, July 21, 2010 12:54 PM

LOL at Clupea Rojo.

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Wednesday, July 21, 2010 12:54 PM

I know it's not the most thrilling name but hey, I didn't pick it! :)

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Wednesday, July 21, 2010 1:05 PM

I almost had to translate it till I realized what Rojo was, then it clicked. I think it's a brilliant name for this attraction.

Last edited by Tekwardo, Wednesday, July 21, 2010 1:05 PM
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Wednesday, July 21, 2010 1:14 PM

You could cut down the mightiest tree in the forest with a name like that.

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Wednesday, July 21, 2010 1:20 PM

After thinking about it, Red Clupea is kind of a sexy name. It's better than Thunder Dolphin!

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Wednesday, July 21, 2010 1:40 PM

The whole thing smells fishy if you ask me.

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Wednesday, July 21, 2010 1:57 PM

I was thinking maybe Falfassinator as a name?

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Wednesday, July 21, 2010 2:39 PM

Or they could call it El Toro.....Oh wait.:)

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Wednesday, July 21, 2010 2:46 PM

But that wouldn't make any sense for this type of ride!

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Wednesday, July 21, 2010 3:39 PM

I keep shaking my head at the fact Ocean Motion is a great family ride everyone can enjoy together, which everyone screams the Point needs more of, and now they are putting it up for sale in order to accomodate yet another "thrill ride?!?" For crying out loud.....has all logic been lost in that small brain if DK's?!?

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Wednesday, July 21, 2010 4:49 PM

I'll say it again, they just replaced the boat on Ocean Motion.

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