Kings Island new Coaster 2014

Racer could only be considered dueling if one side went backward, At some point you have to come face to face to have that designation..

My vote is a SMILER.

With how big a piece of real estate they have to work with, I think the only limitation this ride would have comes from the budget. If they go all-out with a B&M inverted that uses the terrain elevation changes to their advantage, this could be one amazing ride.

Regarding the opinion of Patriot at Worlds Of Fun, what the ride does is great up until the end. The hillside site of Patriot could have produced a really creative ride there, but for me it needs two or three more elements after the corkscrew and high speed turnaround. It just feels slightly incomplete to me as the ride hits the brakes.

^I suspect if more track was added we'd be complaining about how it limps back to the station. Add me to the small list of people who absolutely LOVE Great Bear. For some reason it has a special place in my heart. The end could be more dramatic, but the beginning is so dratted good, it makes up for it.

I can't think of any terrain steel coasters that are out there (though my sample region is primarily in the Midwest), so ground-hugging, tree-dodging B&M inverted or winged coaster would be sweet.

The period between SoB and Diamondback was nine long years of "yawn" inducing additions to the park. It's nice to see them building major coasters again.

I never rode SoB because I was too short when my family went in 2003 (54 in height restriction). Then in 2005 I chickened out, and was like "I'll ride it next year". Then our family just went to Six Flags for the next 5 years, so I didn't get to ride it. Then, we returned 2011 and 2012. It was closed then.

Bakeman31092 said:
I can't think of any terrain steel coasters that are out there (though my sample region is primarily in the Midwest), so ground-hugging, tree-dodging B&M inverted or winged coaster would be sweet.

Phantom's Revenge instantly comes to mind. :)

Bakeman31092 said:

I can't think of any terrain steel coasters that are out there (though my sample region is primarily in the Midwest), so ground-hugging, tree-dodging B&M inverted or winged coaster would be sweet.

The period between SoB and Diamondback was nine long years of "yawn" inducing additions to the park. It's nice to see them building major coasters again.

Kumba I consider a terrain steelie and a darn good one at that!

Or Apollo's Chariot. Or Tatsu. Or Ninja. Or Mave...wait, nevermind.

Revolution is a steel terrain coaster. Afterburn kind of is, as it makes great use of the terrain.

I hope they get an invert, that's one thing about Cedar Fair, they tend to not go the cookie cutter or clone route when they add new signature coasters.

Mindbender SFOG, Hydra which I personally love.

New for 2014, only at Kings Island:

Grandson of Beast - prepare yourself to face the World's first and only 300' wooden coaster. 100-degree drop, speeds topping 100mph, FOUR (!) neck-breaking helices, two half-mile enclosed tunnels, and not one, but 2 vertical loops. Call your chirpractor now!

Not possible. Son of Beast kinda let himself go the last four years. I doubt he was getting any action in that time.

^I don't know if people read Screamscape here but Lance made an interesting connection between the colors of the construction fence signs and the colors of the original Son of Beast trains. I was pretty surprised when I looked up the old trains, it's a very similar pattern.

I noticed the color mimicking as well. The signs seem to be near the old enterance to SOB if I'm not mistaken. I do think that with all of the older woodies getting a face lift that GG will come in and create something NEW and more exciting for Kings Island. The park guests have probably heard nothing but good news regarding all of the "NEW" rides that they have opened. I just do not know what the new ride should be named???

Capacity needs to be the first and last thing that KI thinks about with this attraction. Diamondback was exactly the coaster KI needed: a tall, fast, people-moving monster. Going back to Adventure Express, how many coasters has KI added that would be considered high capacity (more than 1,000 people an hour, excluding SOB)? Let's see:

• Top Gun/Flight Deck - with a really good crew - perhaps
• Flight of Fear - not even close
• Face Off/Invertigo - not even close
• Italian Job/Backlot Stunt Coaster - not even close
• Firehawk - not even close
• Diamondback - yes

A 3-train operation B&M invert or giga would certainly work. A dive coaster would also fit the bill as far as capacity and also give the park a coaster that has a vertical drop. I would be absolutely shocked if this was anything designed by Intamin given their recent history, particularly with Cedar Fair.

Agreed on the capacity, and B&M is the reliable way to go if steel is what's in the cards. I'm not opposed to a massive Intamin or Gravity Group wooden coaster, but a B&M invert is just what the doctor ordered as far as I'm concerned.

Yeah, I mean Intimidator at Carowinds has 16 rows with two in each row. (8 cars with 4 people per car). It's the same at Kings Island with Diamondback. Then, they load it so fast. Diamondback they load a bit slower than Intimidator, though.

Gary Dowdell said:

I would be absolutely shocked if this was anything designed by Intamin given their recent history, particularly with Cedar Fair.

I said that after TTD but then along came Maverick.

Why haven't we seen any photos from the Eiffel Tower of the construction site yet? Didn't anyone of the thousands of people in the park on Saturday have a camera? I would think that that would be a particular area of interest concerning park photos.

Cedar Fair has been on a B&M kick lately. Gatekeeper, Leviathan, Intimidator, Diomandback... Does that necessarily mean anything?

I already posted 1 on page 4, Travis. Want the whole site?

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