Kinda Ka Only has 7400 Horsepower?

Thursday, October 28, 2004 2:27 PM
Kingda Ka Fact Sheet/Page 2NUMBER OF TRAINS: 4NUMBER OF PASSENGERSPER TRAIN: 18TRACK LENGTH: 3,118 feetLENGTH OF THE RIDE: 50.6 secondsSAFETY SYSTEMS: Redundant safety system. Shoulder harness contains two locking devices– hydraulic cylinders and “check strap” that fastens into the shoulderharness.Dispatch Inhibit System ensures passengers are secured beforedispatching.CAPICITY –RIDERS PER HOUR: 1,400PEAK HORSEPOWERTO TRAIN: 7400 HP# # #SIX FLAGS and all related indicia are trademarks of Six Flags Theme Parks Inc. ™ &  2004I saw as i was lloking throught some facts.Top thrill Dragster has 10,000 horsepowere how is it that this coaster is 30 feet taller 8 mph faster and has 2600 horsepower less. Thats doesn't make much sence to me unless they have a bigger gear box but it would have to be huge...
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Thursday, October 28, 2004 2:29 PM
I'm a little confused your post is all bunched together and is hard to read.
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Thursday, October 28, 2004 2:34 PM
ok the point of this is that Kingda ka only has 7400 horsepower. TTD Has 10,000, How is this?
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Thursday, October 28, 2004 2:35 PM
I was told by a park employee who seemed like he knew a lot about the coaster. HE said it looks like ttd but it uses a different hydrolic launch technology. So maybe Intamin discovered away to make a more reliable launch that needs less horsepower.
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Thursday, October 28, 2004 2:42 PM
He typed a lot of that in all caps and used 4 question marks in the title. I think he's serious.
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Thursday, October 28, 2004 2:43 PM
What i really can't understand is how a second rate park would make a bigger version of something that one of the most world renound park is hacing trouble with still to this day. Do they think its going to be reliable.
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Thursday, October 28, 2004 3:14 PM
The length of the launch area can compensate too, if it is longer than TTDs... do we know if this is the case?
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Thursday, October 28, 2004 3:18 PM
Great Adventure is hardly a "second rate park". Doesn't it lead attendance for all seasonal parks including Cedar Point?

I'm sure they messed it up and it will continually rollback due to lack of horse power. Damn you Six Flags. blagh blagh something about customer service.

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Thursday, October 28, 2004 3:26 PM
Spell it with me...

HYDRAULIC

Good God, we've had these rides around now for several years. You'd think people would learn to spell it by now. It's worse than "millennium."

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Thursday, October 28, 2004 3:33 PM
I forget if XCelerator is 2k or 5k horsepower, but that was heard to have been testing at over 100mph before Dragster was announced, or pieces of it ever arrived at CP.

It's possible.

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Thursday, October 28, 2004 4:22 PM
TTD doesn't use 10,000 horsepower it uses 7,000 I think. The reason for this is that they don't ever come near over powering the system. Basically the motor was built to run at 10,000 but only uses 70% of that so they don't ever overly stress the motor. That's smart if you ask me. Also, 10,000 hp wasn't CP's idea it was Intamins idea, go to the Sander Karnacs video here.

Word, Six Flag's Great Adventure had 3,150,000 people come in its gates in 2003. It came in 18th place out of all North American parks. Cedar Point had 3,300,000 people in 2003. They came in 15th place. Cedar Point is the leading seasonal park it comes right after KBF and Seaworld California. Great Adventure did beat out SFMM though. By the way, I got this information from amusementbusiness.com.

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Thursday, October 28, 2004 9:00 PM
Thanks Pedro. That still makes Great Adventure in the top four on the list of seasonal parks. Hardly a second rate park.

Zing!

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Thursday, October 28, 2004 9:48 PM
Remember it would require less HP if the trains had less mass and less friction. I don't know how Kinga Ka, Exc,and TTD compare at that. It would also make a difference.
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Thursday, October 28, 2004 9:52 PM
Does anyone else find it ironic that only enthusiasts would even care about this the slightest bit?

As long as it works, I don't care what HP is uses...

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Thursday, October 28, 2004 10:18 PM
What does it matter? This isn't our problem, it's Intamins, and I'm sure they have plenty of engineers who have done all the calculations multiple times and know exactly how many horsepower the coaster needs...
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Thursday, October 28, 2004 11:05 PM

Word said:
Great Adventure is hardly a "second rate park". Doesn't it lead attendance for all seasonal parks including Cedar Point?


SFGAdv has the highest attendance of any SF park, including SFMM. CP's attendance is only slightly higher than SFGAdv's.

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Friday, October 29, 2004 12:19 AM
Um, how does attendance numbers make a park first or second rate? I think MForce meant in terms of the way both parks operate. Not that I agree either way, but attendance numbers alone don't equate to how you rate a park.
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Friday, October 29, 2004 4:26 AM

MForce Aholic said:
Thats doesn't make much sence to me unless they have a bigger gear box but it would have to be huge...

No, that doesn't make any sense. A gear box would have nothing to do with it, especially since there is only one gear. Also, the gear box could be the size of a thimble, as long as the ratio is maintained (and it's capable of 1000's of lb-ft of torque.
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Friday, October 29, 2004 7:30 AM
You know what I gind most laughable about the stats that were posted above? 1400pph...HA! They will be lucky if they break 1000pph, which they probably won't close to either. Watching the Dragster crew at the end of the season and seeing how fast they had to be for them to hit interval, I think it's safe to say that the crew at SFGAdv will have their hands full. First they will have to get it to work, then they will have to keep it working for an extended period of time, then they will have to try to run it efficiently...I hope they have fun with it.
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Friday, October 29, 2004 9:48 AM
Well, they're only running four trains, so perhaps the blocking will give them a bigger interval.

I don't think are any other coasters in the world with parralel and serial loading action at the same time, so it'll be interesting to see how it works out.

Jack - Re: length of launch track

KdK gets up to a higher speed faster. If you know these two (top speed, time it takes to get there) length of launch track is already factored in.

MForce Aholic -

Before you give yourself away as a fanboy (oh wait, too late) stop complaining and if you really feel the need to, use the search function. There are already countless topics about how unreliable KdK is or is not going to be and honestly, nobody cares anymore.

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