Kennywood sale makes fans nervous
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Resentment of foreign ownership is a key complaint among the Pittsburgh faithful in response to yesterday's announcement that Kennywood's parent company was sold to a Spanish company.
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Can't we all get along?
*** This post was edited by Walk 12/12/2007 8:20:13 PM ***
We stole this country fair and square, true. But, we don't generally acknowledge that---c.f. manifest destiny---and we don't even have the common courtesy to let others try to accomplish the same thing!
The one it that seems for sure is that any taco stand in the park will be torn down after this comment. too bad, i love tacos
Jeff said:
This is why I can't take you seriously, Rob. Once you fail to engage in debate, you try to make it personal.
You're kidding me, right? The guy says something about having to deal with simpletons (immediately after my post and clearly directed at me) and I'm the one that's accused of making it personal? I guess that's why I can't take you seriously either.
I could honestly go on for days about the vast difference between having the freedom to express one's views (a very *solid* concept in its own right) and an openness/desire to really listen to and HEAR other viewpoints (you learn way more with your ears than your mouth, LOL).
...and yeah, I think the UN is a pretty fabulous thing....
I will also say that Kennywood will be as fun next year as it was last year. I certainly agree that people from other countries can run companies just as well as people from the USA. It is insane to believe that the park wont be in good hands just because it is not a USA company.
I like Rob's posts very much and find myself agreeing with him frequently.
And I find it ridiculous that people are getting upset at Mary Lou's comment. She apologized, and that should be it.
I made things personal with Cap'n Obvious because he made things personal with me. If you actually took the time to read the post above mine, that would be more than a little clear. I don't care if things get personal- that's something that happens when people get into heated debates, whether it's right or wrong. But instead of trying to maintain your, "Rob has been here for seven years and I never agree with him" thing, maybe you could take the time to realize that contrary to popular belief, I'm not always the antagonist?
As for something that was said earlier, I'll agree that as a whole, the U.S. is very intolerant of other countries throughout the world. I don't like to admit that but I can't deny it's the truth.
*** This post was edited by Rob Ascough 12/12/2007 11:37:22 PM ***
I don't foresee any major changes happening, simply because there isn't the room to do so at this point. Operationally, I don't know what to expect, but for people to already predict the future and outright dismiss the park, or write it off seems shortsighted to me simply because of new ownership.
Why don't we get the opinions of the multitude of people in the states who already have the corporation as their operator? Yes, we're talking about FEC's and waterparks, but someone has to have some kind of opinion. How about the themeparks overseas that they own? Certainly, there's quite a few people who've visited those parks.
There are plenty of ways for the new owners to screw it up. Just as the old owners made success look easy, the new owners might struggle with it to the point where things change completely. To dismiss the possibility of that wouldn't be right. But I would love to hear from some of the businesses that are owned by PR because I'm sure they could shed some light on what might be in the cards as a new hand is dealt.
*** This post was edited by Rob Ascough 12/12/2007 11:45:03 PM ***
Richard said:
Some of those comments are pretty shocking to be honest, but as someone who doesn't live in America I can't say I'm hugely surprised. Large numbers of people in your country are pretty intolerant of the outside world.
Jeff replied:
These are the kinds of comments that frustrate the crap out of me, because I wish they weren't true. I wish we could just write it off as a perception issue outside of the states, but unfortunately the perception is the reality.
It's the kind of comment that frustrates me because I see no difference between "Americans are intolerant" and "Polish people are dumb" or "Blacks commit crimes" or whatever ethnic or racial stereotyping you choose.
Stop and think about it - what has much of this thread become other than American stereotyping?
Worse yet, by Americans.
Even worse yet, by non-Americans with Americans agreeing.
Let me know the next time you hear someone of Polish descent say, "You know, you're right, I really am pretty stupid." More than likely they'd be standing beside the drunk Russian with a bottle of Vodka in his hand, the French dude carrying a Baguette and the black guy robbing a gas station...
...and the intolerant American who is ignorant to the rest of the world, of course. :)
Brian said:
We stole this country fair and square, true. But, we don't generally acknowledge that---c.f. manifest destiny---and we don't even have the common courtesy to let others try to accomplish the same thing!
LOL! :)
You know what though, there's a lot of truth in that. I know what I stole (or what was stolen for me) - I'm not sure I'm dumb enough to let the same thing happen to me. ;)
I guess as a white American male, I just don't feel the level of guilt that I'm supposed to.
Signed,
The Rock-N-Roll Republican :)
*** This post was edited by Carrie M. 12/13/2007 12:28:46 AM ***
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What part of USA do YOU live in?
I don't know about what you'all do in GA, but I would expect people would associate something less BRITISH and more in line with cowboys, cheeseburgers, and Hollywood. Wait a minute - that sounds like Warner Movie world in Madrid or Universal Studio's Port Aventura in Salou
The U.N? Don't get me started on that, They USE the rich to profit for themselves. Don't beleieve me? Do your research and by no means should the U.N set U.S or any other countries policies.
Intolerance is everywhere. Americans just express it more freely.
I made things personal with Cap'n Obvious because he made things personal with me.
Not really. He made it 'personal' because there was nothing else to do. Except to admit he had backed himself into a corner.
I noted that the PR lady's job may be in trouble. And why. That was all.
Of course, when it's your MO to believe the world has to conform itself to your POV (reference any GL thread--or better yet, don't), that gets rather difficult to accept. Soooo Rob's next leap of ADHD logic was to say that I personally wanted the woman fired...
After all, this is an actual person with an actual family we're talking about. For the sake of you and your family, I hope you have a little more job security than the job security you're suggesting for Ms. Rosemeyer.
...which led to my explanation of the same thing I explained before for oh, the fourth or fifth time. But I also asked him to show me where I said I wanted her fired.
In all the sweaty little puffing and blowing that ensued, he hoped no one recognized that he couldn't answer the question. He was all noise, no substance and...well, for lack of a better word, wrong. Again.
All the clickety-clacking next to bag of Fritos in the world isn't gonna make my life any less happy. Sorry if you happen to take it so personally. But I'm one very content, incredibly lucky bastard. And uh, Coasterbuzz isn't gonna change that one bit.
-CO
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