Islands of Adventure's space problem

Sunday, July 20, 2003 8:31 PM
Does anyone have any information on the current situation with Islands of Adventure and their space problem. Or, does it even have one? Why hasn't IOA built a new coaster or anything like that? The Hulk and DD are so popular, I'd think that IOA is capable of putting another world class coaster in.

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Sunday, July 20, 2003 8:33 PM
Well until they get have a space "problem" as extensive as Indiana Beach, then they don't have a "problem" at all.

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Sunday, July 20, 2003 8:51 PM
In the great words of Cedar Point: What space problem?

After USF gets mummy out of the way you can almost gurantee that something will go into IOA. Its only a matter of time. :) cough*jeep ride* cough

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Sunday, July 20, 2003 9:07 PM
jurassic park jeep adventure is what I hope go"s in the spot bettween JPRA and Flying unicorn. If they used that space well they could do it.

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Sunday, July 20, 2003 9:30 PM
IOA has room for several more large attractions or show buildings. The parks only been open four years, though, so there's no real use in them expanding rapidly just yet. Why use all your available space in the first 10 years a park is open and have no room to expand in the years following?

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Sunday, July 20, 2003 9:44 PM
Oh my god...I feel like a broken record! IOA has three more plots of land *planned* for "future expansion" as well as two more clubs in Citywalk. There is no space problem...
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Sunday, July 20, 2003 11:45 PM
The reason they havn't put a new coaster in, is because frankly they don't have to. The place is getting more and more visitors each year with practically no expansion. Plus by bringing Halloween Horror Nights to IOA last year, they really created another attention booster for the park without spending say $50million plus on a new attraction. As for new rides I really don't see anything but a B&M flyer as the next ride. No jeep ride, reasons being: already two jeep rides at other FL parks, story of dino's escaping is getting rather old, the mummy while mechanically a coaster is still more of a dark ride than your traditional coaster experience (which means last 4 years of expansion have all been shows or dark rides). Plus what really made IOA different and stand out in the beginning wasn't Spiderman, it was Dueling Dragons and The Hulk coasters. Those are what set it apart as more of the teen-young adult park, and not the kiddy land like other Orlando parks. Adding another fairly decent sized outdoor coaster really would fit into IOA. As Hulk and D&D prooved the actual ride doesn't have to be all that well themed, but the setup is the key.

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Monday, July 21, 2003 6:27 AM
Didn't Rhino Rally already *prove* that jeep rides grow old after ONE trip? Rumors abound around BGT that re-ridership was....disappointing....and that the upper management has regretted the decision ever since. The *concept* sounds fun, but it really is worth *A* ride....not much more than that...

IoA, in my mind, has several better options available...but right now, as noted, "the complex" is still busy working on additions at USF...

bill, 0 for 3 on Shrek at this point....an hour is my limit...
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Monday, July 21, 2003 6:56 AM
IOA has plenty of room. If you ever get the chance to drive around on the service road you'll see exactly what I mean.

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Monday, July 21, 2003 9:20 AM
I love how the space is pretty-much all hidden away. Disney Studios in Paris has the problem that there are so many empty bits of land that you can see are earmarked for future expansion, but it just stinks of being unfinished.
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Monday, July 21, 2003 9:26 AM
DragsterFAN said:
Why hasn't IOA built a new coaster or anything like that?

Uhhhh...cuz they already quadruple the attendance of your average coaster park?

If that's not proof enough that a park doesn't need a coaster to boost attendance, I don't know what is.

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Monday, July 21, 2003 11:15 AM
"jurassic park jeep adventure is what I hope go"s in the spot bettween JPRA and Flying unicorn. "

I don't know about that. The land between JPRA and Dudley Do-Right seems to offer a wider perimeter of space for that kind of ride.

But I would probably expect a new ride announcement next year once Mummy's complete. IOA's attendance is still lower than that at USF yet USF is the one that's getting the three new rides (Mummy along with the open Neutron and Shrek attractions). I guess it may be because IOA was the only area park to GROW its attendance last year that has the park's expansion on cruise control right now, but it's pretty amazing that the park will turn five years old officially on May 28, 2004 and the only expansion has been Unicorn and Storm Force. AK announced Everest on its 5th birthday. I'd expect IOA to follow suit.

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Monday, July 21, 2003 5:20 PM
Cedar Point Does Not Have A Space Problemâ„¢

Err ... sorry, wrong thread.

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Monday, July 21, 2003 5:26 PM
After having re-read and watched Jurassic Park, I just drooled over that T-Rex attack. Im sorry but I really dont see how getting attacked by a T-Rex can grow old, I personally cant wait to see that animatronic, too bad Disney created the walking animatronics if it was Universal the ride would have allready been built.

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Monday, July 21, 2003 7:13 PM
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Monday, July 21, 2003 7:19 PM
Gator-Get on Shrek as soon as you can. While we were on vacation down there, we were lucky enough to ride it on the Sunday before it opened, as it did its 'test runs'. It is easily the most fun I have ever had in a movie theatre. Definitely a winner.

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Monday, July 21, 2003 7:20 PM

Touchdown said:
After having re-read and watched Jurassic Park, I just drooled over that T-Rex attack. Im sorry but I really dont see how getting attacked by a T-Rex can grow old, I personally cant wait to see that animatronic, too bad Disney created the walking animatronics if it was Universal the ride would have allready been built.

*Walking* doesn't mean galloping, running, attacking, or otherwise doing the things a normal animal can. Walking means the AA figure can be in a parade. Maybe they can give 'em a brain and stick some dinosaurs on some open land at let them roam.

Far more impressive are ITEC Entertainments free-roaming AA figures. They have sharks and dolphins that are entirely self-contained and very, very fluid.

I'd imagine that Universal is concerned about the same thing Disney seemed concerned about when it came to AK's Beastley Kingdomme -- that is, Disney put off the Dragon's Tower attraction due to IOA's Dueling Dragons. Well. . . Animal Kingdom's Dinosaur *is* a Jeep Adventure -- just without the Jurassic Park licensing.

That said, I wouldn't want to see a B&M Flyer and would prefer a *duplicate* Jeep Adventure -- especially if it were entirely outdoors and went all the way and used full-size Explorers.

Unfortunately, I think the Jurassic Park River Adventure really wasted any good chance Universal has at developing a *great* Jurassic Park attraction.


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Monday, July 21, 2003 7:24 PM
You obviously haven't been to the park. Ever heard of a ride called Spiderman at IOA? Well thats not a coaster and its lines are just as long, if not longer, than those of the Hulk or DD on a daily basis. Strange how that works out, isn't it?

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Monday, July 21, 2003 7:41 PM

Blink3020 said:
You obviously haven't been to the park. Ever heard of a ride called Spiderman at IOA? Well thats not a coaster and its lines are just as long, if not longer, than those of the Hulk or DD on a daily basis. Strange how that works out, isn't it?

Could you please quote who you're talking to? it makes following a conversation 437289 times easier. (Not an even number, you'll note.)

If you *were* addressing me, you'll note that my out-of-date track record does show a visit to IOA :) Besides, at any rate, *wait times* aren't necessarily indicative of *popularity.* Pteranodon Flyers clearly isn't the best ride in the park, but suffered from astronomical wait times. So, where's the corollary?

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Monday, July 21, 2003 7:55 PM
Chernabog a couple of quick points about the jeep ride.

First of all imagine an add, first you see the scene in the movie where the water starts reverberating, flash to Grant looking out his window in the rain, then to Mr T-Rex showing his pearly whites. Next, a shot of kids screaming, queue magical glow that transforms the kids in the movie to your average theme park going family, finally finish with a shot of the T-Rex biting the jeep. Queue anouncer: Jurassic Park Jeep Adventure, this time your'e in the jeep. No one is going to think, wow that sounds like Dinosaur; theyr'e going to think, oh my god I remember that part of the movie I need to ride that ride!

Second, I personally would prefer a JPJA (with the right technology of course) to a BM flyer anyday.

Finally to all this ride can very easily be started above ground (ie the start of the tour, spitters, etc.) and then go into a "underpass" and then follow down a hill to get the vehicles into a below the ground ride area where the ride can witness the huricane arriving and the big T-Rex attack (where he ruins a jeep right behind you not the one your riding) that could proably end with a big chase (ala Malcoms return to the visitor center). I once again must reiterate how amazing this ride would be, heres hopeing they can do it!

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