Is TR:TR a roller Coaster

BEASTmaster,

Thanks for the pics.

-Derek

WOW!  TR:TR is gonna be awseome!  I've never ridden what looks like to be a top spin and can't wait.  Waiting in line with all the theming and chambers... is somthing I can't wait for as well.  Fortunatly I don't get sick on those things unlike a lot of people!
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Here's what I'm curious about.  The last construction pics of the season showed the building being nearly enclosed.  Those  pieces of equipment that were out in the parking lot look awfully big to fit through the front door.  I don't know if it's my Hamiltucky-self talking, but I believe the building was fully enclosed by the end of November.  Unless there's space shuttle doors in the back of the building, I don't see how they're going to erect the ride. It'll be neat to see what's going on back in those woods, for I'm completely stumped..  :)

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Hamilton High School: Home of the Big Blue and signing of the No Child Left Behind Act of 2001 (and my alma mater :) )

Sheik al Squeak, TR:TR was built in the same process as FoF.  The building for FoF was already erected while there was still track, waiting to be assembled, in the parking lot.
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Bill Yost
http://www.small-business-webs.com/pkizone
Swoosh,

Have you ever thought that the blue prints were fake? Remember how PKI put out the false Inferno rumor, before July 2nd, when TRTR was announced. How come these couldn't be the same thing but only a step higher? I really think that they are and the PKI isn't getting a Top Spin, or a giant Top Spin, or Top Spins or a coaster. It's gonna be unlika anything. And when PKI says unlike anything, they just aren't talking about a little spin off of something already made. It's gonna be BRAND SPANKIN' NEW!

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It's his turn to feast, when you ride the Son of Beast.

What if it is an adventure ride like Indiana Jones? That's not a true "roller coaster" and it would have individual cars. I totally agree with PKI fanatic on this one.

*** This post was edited by Steven B. on 1/11/2002. ***

I second the motion Steven B.!  Even though it would be cool if TR:TR turned out to be some form of Top Spin which nobody can clarify yet, PKI did say TomB RaIdEr ThE ride would be somthing nobody has seen before.  And yes I know a Giant Top Spin hasn't been built yet, but it is still a top spin except for bigger, It's like lets say one month a park comes out with a stell coaster that's 150 feet tall, then a few months later another park comes out with another steel coasterthats 180 feet tall.  Just becuase it's bigger doesn't necessarily mean it is a brand new form of ride.  It'll be funny to here the I told you so in the spring!  Who will be the ones to say it though?!?!
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  There are many other factors when it comes to something being new besides height.   I mean, look at the B&M version of the inverted coaster. Ever since Batman opened in 1992, there have been a whole slew of companies who have put out their own versions of the inverted coaster.

 Yet for some reason, I don't hear many people complaining about Volcano being 'the same ole thing' or even a Impulse coaster being 'just like Batman' because they hang from the tracks. While both of those coasters do indeed offer something in design that can be felt on the B&M inverted coasters, they also offer something of their own.

 I am not going to fully elaborate on what I think Tomb Raider may consist of, but I do think that some of the possibilities are strong as to what it actually is. I also have listened to what the park has mentioned regarding the attraction and know for certain that they haven't lied about anything or mislead anyone to what it actually is. They haven't put out 'fake' info, but have tried to get people excited in a way that I have never seen to this level before. By making the ride experience secret, it generates a lot of talk. It's called good marketing.

-Sean

 

 

PKI Fanatic:

"Inferno" as I understand it, was the working name that PKI used when developing Tomb Raider. The ride idea was develped much prior to the decision being made to theme it after TR.  Throughout it's development and even after it's movie theming had been decided, Paramount Parks Design and Entertainment referred to it as "Inferno."

The PARK has not put any "fake" materials or rumors out.  PKI is way too busy to be playing games such as that... anyway they don't need to.  Enthusiasts do it for them.

I do know that PKI used the working title when outsourcing the construction contract.  That allowed them security in finalizing the theming prior to the announce date.  That was not a lie, Inferno was what the ride was originally called, nor was it done to mislead the GP... it was done so they would not divulge the theme for the ride before the marketing blitz was ready.

From the get-go the park wanted to keep people guessing about the nature of the attraction.  They wanted a mystique surrounding the ride to match the feel of the movie.  To obtain that, they have been selective about what they have revealed.  They have not done anything to be deceptive or mislead.  There is no point or justification in it.

Again, the misleading things that have travelled around the rumor boards or enthusiasts sites can all be attributed to enthusiasts.  Why if I wanted to prove my point, I could post a rumor about PKI's 2003 attraction (completely made up mind you) and within minutes it would be all over the web.  That is what has happened with way too many rides, namely Tomb Raider.

Last year on URC, someone posted a joke in a post saying PKI was developing the first suspended "log flume."  They meant no ill, but rather were just being silly on the board.  Within 2 days the rumor was on Screamscape, Thrillride and two other park enthusiasts sites who shall remain nameless.  People took it as gospel... and in the end questioned PKI for it. 

Shaggy

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Shaggy
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I can tell you that if you put all the information given to us that TRTR is not a top spin. The plans on screamscape were drafted wrong (for professional drafters, they put a box in the upper corner giving dimensions instead of putting them on the lines, and the layout of the buildings on the plan were layed out wrong) and screamscapes record with rumors/news isnt the greatest. Until PKI gives us new info, im not going to guess what it is, but the Top spin rumor is wrong.

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Hey,

While I search for Giant Top Spin pictures and I quickly saw the layouts of Top Spin and Giant Top Spin that Huss drawed.

Here is the link: www.hussrides.com/31cGiantTopSpinTech.htm

The layouts that Huss drawed looked different than Screamscape layouts.

What do you think?

-Derek


PkI FaNaTiC said:

Have you ever thought that the blue prints were fake?
And when PKI says unlike anything, they just aren't talking about a little spin off of something already made. It's gonna be BRAND SPANKIN' NEW!

Ok, yes that thought did cross my mind that they could be fake--but why would PKI go so INTENSIVE into throwing us off? 
Your second note was that it was going to be something brand spanking new.  Do realize they mean the experience as a whole, and not just the ride.  That makes the possibilities endless, and not to mention makes peoples imaginations run wild.  While true and all remember that this ride is limited to the box they built.  You can't just build ANYTHING in that small of a box.

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GO HUSKERS!

Swoosh,

 I think you are correct in the whole "entire experiance being new" statement. That is what people are not remembering for some reason.  Not only do I think the actual ride system will be something we haven't experianced before, but I think the entire attraction is something no one has done before.

  If a few people do become upset with the park once they realize what the ride portion of the attraction is, they should only blame themselves and not the park. The park hasn't mislead anyone nor has it lied about the attraction in any way.

-Sean 

As to the building being previously enclosed.  A metal sheathed building of this type is very easy to open back up.  You just remove the screws that hold the paneling, then remove the girts (horizontal steel pieces) that the paneling is screwed.  Neither the paneling nor the girts does anything to hold the building up.  We do this all the time in industry when we install or remove large equipment.  PKI may have wanted to complete enclosure either to finish with the boilding contractor or to provide weather protection while wokr goes on inside.

PkI FaNaTiC said:
Swoosh,
Have you ever thought that the blue prints were fake? Remember how PKI put out the false Inferno rumor, before July 2nd, when TRTR was announced. How come these couldn't be the same thing but only a step higher? I really think that they are and the PKI isn't getting a Top Spin, or a giant Top Spin, or Top Spins or a coaster. It's gonna be unlika anything. And when PKI says unlike anything, they just aren't talking about a little spin off of something already made. It's gonna be BRAND SPANKIN' NEW!
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It's his turn to feast, when you ride the Son of Beast.

You know,  Now that I am not spilling any beans,  There are pictures dude.  I have also seen it myself in the parking lot.
It is what they say it is and there is nothing GIANT about it!  It is a standard Huss Model.
I still think this ride can be increadible though,  The ride dose not have to be programed to spin only, It can be moved up or down, lean this way or that all with special effects all around you!   Have you ever seen the special effects of Posidons Fury at IOA?   Now imagine something like that on a ride.
If PKI even comes close this will be a winner!
Chuck, anxiously awaiting April 7th.
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Charles Nungester
Park Jockey :)


Shaggy said:
PKI Fanatic:
"Inferno" as I understand it, was the working name that PKI used when developing Tomb Raider. The ride idea was develped much prior to the decision being made to theme it after TR.  Throughout it's development and even after it's movie theming had been decided, Paramount Parks Design and Entertainment referred to it as "Inferno."
The PARK has not put any "fake" materials or rumors out.  PKI is way too busy to be playing games such as that... anyway they don't need to.  Enthusiasts do it for them.
I do know that PKI used the working title when outsourcing the construction contract.  That allowed them security in finalizing the theming prior to the announce date.  That was not a lie, Inferno was what the ride was originally called, nor was it done to mislead the GP... it was done so they would not divulge the theme for the ride before the marketing blitz was ready.
From the get-go the park wanted to keep people guessing about the nature of the attraction.  They wanted a mystique surrounding the ride to match the feel of the movie.  To obtain that, they have been selective about what they have revealed.  They have not done anything to be deceptive or mislead.  There is no point or justification in it.
Again, the misleading things that have travelled around the rumor boards or enthusiasts sites can all be attributed to enthusiasts.  Why if I wanted to prove my point, I could post a rumor about PKI's 2003 attraction (completely made up mind you) and within minutes it would be all over the web.  That is what has happened with way too many rides, namely Tomb Raider.
Last year on URC, someone posted a joke in a post saying PKI was developing the first suspended "log flume."  They meant no ill, but rather were just being silly on the board.  Within 2 days the rumor was on Screamscape, Thrillride and two other park enthusiasts sites who shall remain nameless.  People took it as gospel... and in the end questioned PKI for it. 
Shaggy
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Shaggy
A.K.A. John K.

OMG,  That old rumor of the suspended log flume is still going around?   Wonder who made that one up?
Couldn't have been me,  Nah!
Chuck :) 

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Charles Nungester
Park Jockey :)

I must correct myself,  Earlier I said that it was a standard model.   I could be wrong,  It may be a Giant.

Chuck, who knows this isn't going to be just a Giant~~~~ but a total sensory experience from Q entry to finale.

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Charles Nungester
Park Jockey :)

Last night I started thinking about TR:TR for a while and finially came up with, just what if  after you finish the amazing, thrilling queue line, you enter the ride itself and although this might sound a bit out of hand, but you are on this Top Spin thing or whatever it may turn out to be, and in front of you, or behind, or below, or above you, is this movie screen or some kind of movie screen,and all around you are the temple theming, the fire, ice, water... effects.  If this is anything close to what TR:TR turns out to be, it'll be great, awesome, fantastic, super, wonderfull, great, grand...

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That is exactly what we have been trying to get across.  The Top Spin will be there just to make you loose your sense of direction...I fully believe that there will be screens everywhere in that building to provide a "Spidey-type" ride adventure.

Now with that being said, what's with this track that has been spotted?

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S W :) :) S H
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Do you bleed blue? BLUES HOCKEY 2002


Jim Fisher said:
As to the building being previously enclosed.  A metal sheathed building of this type is very easy to open back up. 

Makes sense to me now!  I had to really think about that.  It just seems a lil troublesome to reopen a building like that.

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Hamilton High School: Home of the Big Blue and signing of the No Child Left Behind Act of 2001 (and my alma mater :) )

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