Intamin Rockets - Why so expensive?

Monday, December 23, 2002 10:59 AM

Why are Intamin rocket coasters so expensive? Xcelerator cost 13 million and it's a relatively short ride. (Not saying it's bad, though, because I am so jealous of it) People say CP's new ride will cost around 20-25 million? What makes them so expensive? The height, the hydralic launch?

A question little off-topic. Will CP's new ride have a hydralic launch?

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Monday, December 23, 2002 11:02 AM
I am not sure either, perhaps it is the launching system
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Monday, December 23, 2002 11:05 AM
Those supports sure would cost a hell of alot on #16.

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Monday, December 23, 2002 11:08 AM
It' s called new technology, that's always going to cost a pretty penny.

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Monday, December 23, 2002 11:15 AM

They had to assemble and test the entire launch mechanism in Germany before Xcel was shipped over here. (I've talked to Jack Falfas and Sandor Kernac's, both went to Germany to watch tests). The combination of new technology, demand for Intamin rides and the fact that prototypes are properly tested at Intamin (unlike Vekomas or Arrows- cough*XandDeja*cough) drive the price high for prototype and all Intamin rides in general.

Cp's will probably cost around 15 mil, which is not expensive considerring S:TE has a price tag of over 60 million (after all the modifications and operating costs these past 5 years).

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Monday, December 23, 2002 11:30 AM
It's the paint the ride uses. It contains platinum and gold.

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Monday, December 23, 2002 11:59 AM
If the ride costs 15 million (at CP is supposed to get 35-40 million) do you think that they might build another roller coaster for '03?

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Monday, December 23, 2002 12:13 PM
Obviously, this ride is another filler. You don't honestly think CP would waiste thier budget for next year on this do you? They're "gearing up for war" with SFMM. Whether either side will admit it, they're fighting for the crown. SFMM already has $30 mil int hier pockets for next years coaster(s), and management has already told Maintnace to start proposals for the 2004 coaster.
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Monday, December 23, 2002 12:22 PM
Qv and Qa of course. Question and demand. A record-breaking or world's first coaster always costs more than e.g. the 36th SLC. You pay for cutting-edge technology, record-breaking heighths and exclusivity.

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Monday, December 23, 2002 12:32 PM

Q. Why dose B&M charge 20 million for a Mid sized invert???????????????

A. Because they can!

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Monday, December 23, 2002 1:33 PM

Don't expect Dragster to cost all that much more than Xcelerator. After all, Xcelerator's launching system is just as powerful as Dragsters, unless they want to test launches on Dragster at 130MPH (Xcelerator did a few launches at 117MPH), and the track length on Dragster is just the same/a little shorter than Xcelerators. Where Dragster may become a little more expensive is an unload station, and a possible extra train. Also, i bet its much more expensive to rent that extra crane or two, and build something 400ft tall compared to something 205 feet tall. I'd expect the price to be between 15 and 18 million. 25 million sounds WAY too high.

The rocket coaster costs a lot because of the launch sysrem.

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Monday, December 23, 2002 2:52 PM
A little off topic. If the CP ride is ONLY going to cost 15 to 18 million, where is all of that CF money going? I've seen people put in their guesses for how much each park is going to get, and if the above statement is true, then they were WAY wrong!!
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Monday, December 23, 2002 3:30 PM

Knotts is getting a ton of paint this year. Bommerang just got painted purple and green, the camp snoopy playhouse got painted purple, the inventors workshop got transformed into Peppermint patties' candy and souvenirs, all the cement was painted grey, and they are getting 2 new rides supposedly. The kiddie flat ride (sky skater) and a highly rumored by those really in the know major flat ride for fiesta village.

Valleyfair is getting steel venom, likely to cost 9-10 million.

Michigans aventure could get something on top of recycled CP rides.

Dorney won't see much.

Worlds of Fun may see something small.

I highly think we may see phase 2 of soak city usa buena park this season. It was supposed to come awhile ago. Also, maybe improvements at the other water parks

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Monday, December 23, 2002 4:44 PM

ThePhantomLives said:
Obviously, this ride is another filler.

Let's not get into the ride filler thing again.

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Monday, December 23, 2002 4:48 PM
Phantom Lives, how do you explain the Volcano the Blast Coaster fiasco? It didn't open until August, and with only half the seats on each train!
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Monday, December 23, 2002 5:44 PM
Well, an obvious contributing factor for the cost of Xcelerator was the earthquake factor again. I'd imagine that if CP's coaster had the overbanked turns with the same amount of supports as Xcelerator, the Intamin box would change into a triangle. The cost for CP's coaster I would imagine would come in at the launch and, as others have mentioned, the height and technology.

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Monday, December 23, 2002 6:35 PM

Let's see.

400' up. 400' down = 800' plus some (for the TH).

Then there's the launch, brake run which has got to be close to 1000 each. (Just a guess. Hard to tell from pics). Then a turn around. 15 mil for a 2800' coaster isn't that bad...

d8 - who may be way off with his guesses... :)

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Monday, December 23, 2002 6:41 PM

ThePhantomLives said:
SFMM already has $30 mil int hier pockets for next years coaster(s), and management has already told Maintnace to start proposals for the 2004 coaster.

And you know this how? Please don't give us some of that "uncle" or "relative" bull**** either. I'd like to see some proof that you know this, or else don't post it.

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Monday, December 23, 2002 6:56 PM

Kinda off topic but...

Speedy said : Dorney won't see much.

Thats not true , there getting the 10 new water slides.

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Monday, December 23, 2002 9:01 PM

du8die said:

Let's see.

400' up. 400' down = 800' plus some (for the TH).

Then there's the launch, brake run which has got to be close to 1000 each. (Just a guess. Hard to tell from pics). Then a turn around. 15 mil for a 2800' coaster isn't that bad...

d8 - who may be way off with his guesses...

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"Getting on Iron Wolf is kind of like going in a blender and pressing PUREE"

Xcelerator's launch track is only 157 feet long, and the station adds about 40 feet to that number. Man it would suck if Dragsters launch is 1000 feet long. That would be almost as bad as Superman: The escape. More like 200-250. The brake run looks extremely long from the photos and webcam, certaintly longer than Xcelerator's by maybe 150 feet. That extra space on the launch side will be taken up by the extra unload station. The tunaround on Xcelerator has about a 20 foot diameter. So obviously about 30 feet of track on the turnaround. It will have less than or about the same amount of track as Xcelerator.

I forgot about the waterslides. What could they cost, 3 million bucks? WOF's getting a new platy structure, right?


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