IAAPA 2000: Pirate photos and video show what might be new Arrow coaster

Posted Saturday, November 11, 2000 7:28 PM | Contributed by Jeff

[Note, these images do not reside on the CoasterBuzz server. We have removed the link at the request of Arrow Dynamics.]

Note how the outer rails control the pitch of the seats. The outer rails vary in distance from the main rails. As the the outer rails get away from the main rails, a tie rod pushes (or pulls) a lever on the seat assembly to rotate it. That means precise control over rotation.

Thanks Tornado and Millennium Force for the spots!

Saturday, November 11, 2000 7:39 PM
Could that be Setpoints new design? I remember reading a article about them designing a coaster where the seats are on the outside of the track. They said it was to solve the problem of only the front seats having a good view on a inverted coaster.
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Saturday, November 11, 2000 7:48 PM
It sure looke like a floorless. I also looks like a vertical but with only 4 seats per row. I think it is a take off to B&M

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Saturday, November 11, 2000 7:57 PM
Jeff's avatar Setpoint's design would be on a box track. The track looks a little too Arrow, and I don't mean that in a good way.

That aside, look at what the seats do... they pitch around the X-axis, apparently all the way around. That's sure to induce vomit!

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Jeff
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Saturday, November 11, 2000 8:06 PM
Yep, just made sure by looking at THAT address' video, but...

That is Arrow's. It was found earlier today on Arrow Dynamics' FTP server. Since then, Arrow's had the smarts to close off the server to the public. The video was accompanied by numerous photos.

As for the spinning seats, I totally agree with Jeff... that's sick city if you ask me.

The thing that I'm still wondering about is the cryptic pop-up window on arrowdynamics.com. If you haven't seen it, there's a little graphic of what looks to be a drop into a loop (some say it looks like "Ce") with the message "Coming November 13". Looks like we have to wait another day.

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Saturday, November 11, 2000 8:42 PM
If they had some kind of lock on the seats, so they could be locked an unlocked during certin parts of the ride, it could be an absolutely amazing expirience. I look forward to the official anouncement on monday. Also, from what I have heard, the new Arrow track on TT@Dollywood is supposed to be better than B&M. And I personallly like the slight jolt of an Arrow. It makes me feel like I am riding a rollercoaster, as opposed to sliding across a sheet of plate glass. Just my oppinion, take it for what it's worth, which probably isn't much.;)

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Saturday, November 11, 2000 9:03 PM
OH MY GOD! that looks insane!
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Saturday, November 11, 2000 9:05 PM
its soo blurry its like blair witch but it looks like torture it might be a new flying coaster?? or a new arrow??? or a new company???
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Saturday, November 11, 2000 9:26 PM
Like I said, it was found on Arrow Dynamics' FTP server. I highly doubt they'd have Setpoint's, B&M's, Intamin's, or any other manufacturer's videos/pictures on their systems.

It has to be Arrow's. (At the very least, linked to Arrow, i.e., a division of Arrow or something.)

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Saturday, November 11, 2000 9:30 PM
I think it looks like fun!
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Sunday, November 12, 2000 2:13 AM
Oh man,that looks intense.I really can't wait to ride one of these babys.
It's an Arrow,you can tell by the track.
Could this be the reason why Paramount Parks dropped their exclusive deal(flying dutchmen) with Vekoma???
I for one certainly hope so.:)
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Sunday, November 12, 2000 6:02 AM
Looks like a flop to me!

Just my 2 cents.

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Sunday, November 12, 2000 6:04 AM
This is for sure an Arrow coaster, just look at the track, and the original ftp address had arrowdynamics in it.

They took Setpoins idea, and made it wilder, but I also saw a site where the Setpoint Seizmic coasters will not only race, but duel, to allow fly-bys.

I think both of teh rides, will be incredible, especially if they can put a lot more elements in them, such as inversions.
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Sunday, November 12, 2000 6:24 AM
OK everybody, I'll fuel your fires...

Go to http://www.geocities.com/arrow_metrock/arrow/ for all the pictures of this monstrosity you could ever want...

This does NOT look like "average" Arrow track (4 running rails), and you can trust me this is not a flop.
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Sunday, November 12, 2000 6:33 AM
THANKS MF! A BIG THANKS!!

Yes WildOne and everyone else, Arrow's newer track IS better than B&M (what ISN'T), and I would put it right there with Intamin in some cases. Tornado is out of this world. I have also been on an Intamin high since Ride of Steel at D.C.!! More exciting for me than MF.

Anyways---this spinning seat thing is interesting. I agree that this is a very weird design...I am not much for the seats outside the track idea. but we'll see where this goes. I am more excited about their announcement this week. :)

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Sunday, November 12, 2000 6:46 AM
Yeah we'll all see tomorrow, does anyone know what time that should be around??
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Sunday, November 12, 2000 6:58 AM
I reamember watching video with arrow talking about a coaster they have been working on for the past 4 years that envolves the riders seats spinning on the sides of the track. Well this is just conformation of the 4th demention and I cant wait to see them at IAAPA on Wensday and Thrusday.
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Sunday, November 12, 2000 7:16 AM
Looks like the track does use four rails. The inner two look like the usual running rails of the standard Arrow track. While the outer two... one on each side of the standard track, is used for the various spins of the floorless coaster style seats. How, you ask? Notice in the pictures how the outer rails change position on the rib joint. (i.e. the outer rails are at the top of the rib next to the running rails at one point. At another the outer rails are close to the bottom of the rib joint.)
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Sunday, November 12, 2000 7:16 AM
You know after I started gaucking at the pics on the website provided above I can't help but wonder if this could be a marketing ploy. You know they have done that before.

You know if I am not mistaken didn't the same type of thing happen with Intamin and Millineium Force?

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Sunday, November 12, 2000 7:40 AM
Jeff's avatar I wouldn't start proclaiming death to B&M and Intamin just yet. It's only a prototype, it's gimmicky (enthusiasts hate gimmicks) and for some reason they're still building track with the same design flaw (large ties prone to bending). Looks like they got the wheel tolerance right, though.

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