Hydra 8-09-04, Lift hill goes vertical

You mean that the lift approach will be the best part of the ride? ;)

I always liked Herc's.

*** Edited 8/10/2004 7:32:27 PM UTC by rocky racoon***

An update, the put the track up for the turn before the lift hill today.

It looks great!

Mike

I don't know where that inversion before the lift thing got started. I think some people are confusing what could be steeply banked track for an inversion.

Are we finally going to see a floorless on this side of the Atlantic with an Immelman!?!

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MHammer82 said:
An update, the put the track up for the turn before the lift hill today.

It looks great!

Mike

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My friend is going to check it out, We'll have an update on www.xtremecoasters.com shortly.

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Lord Gonchar said:
I don't know where that inversion before the lift thing got started. I think some people are confusing what could be steeply banked track for an inversion.

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Are you sure it's being confused with anything other than what it really is going to be, Gonch? ;) If you're really, really clever, you can figure it out by the placement of the supports already erected.

And to answer JDB, no, not on this one at least. :( *** Edited 8/10/2004 9:08:32 PM UTC by Legendary***

Dude, you have a way of putting the info RIGHT THERE without giving anything away and in most cases causing more confusion and specualtion.

Kudos for that.

http://xtremecoasters.com/index.php?act=construction/dorney

There you go, An 8/10/04 update...

The turn around now is full complete, And there is a support that clearly shows that the track will hang sideways because the connection is sitting 90 degrees vertically. So we can definatly look forward to a zero-G or twist out of the station. Here is the pic of the support that connects to the track at 90 degrees....

http://www.xtremecoasters.com/photo_gallery/displayimage.php?album=27&pos=25 *** Edited 8/10/2004 9:33:51 PM UTC by Big D***

eeeeeeenteresting supports. Makes ya go "hmmm..."

mOOSH

Gonch

Thanks for the kudos. Now check your PM's. :)

I stood by and watched the last two pieces get placed today. I'm amazed in today's world of technology, there were no power tools involved in tightening the bolts connecting the spine to the supports or to each other. It was all done by hand, and they were using a bubble level on top of one of the supports. I just got a laugh out of that.:)

Anyway, I still think there is the possibility of some kind of inversion before the lift. The banked turn into the base of the lift is very tight and steep, so it will be hitting it rather fast.

Here you can see two supports facing each other that could be the placement for the possible inversion. Either that or it will just be some very windy track getting to the lift, which might be a little boring.

My vote goes for a banked s-turn out of the station, not an inversion.

mOOSH

*** Edited 8/10/2004 10:15:43 PM UTC by Mamoosh***

http://www.xtremecoasters.com/photo_gallery/displayimage.php?album=27&pos=25

Well this picture pretty much says it all. Supports angled at 90 degrees, one from one side and one from the other. Only way that would work if it would flip.

That picture is of a piece of track, not supports.

This pic shows a similar support. The spot on the support where the track is bolted to it is vertical, but as you can see the track is merely banked for the turn.

Those two off-set supports where track attaches vertically is for the s-turn. As I said previously the lift approach will be "Hercules-like" in shape.

Don't get your hopes up for a pre-lift inversion.

mOOSH [99% sure]

*** Edited 8/10/2004 10:56:48 PM UTC by Mamoosh***

Im with moosh I dont think just because the suports are like that doesnt mean its gonna be a 90 degree angle. Keep in mind how odd B&M supports are now-a-day.

Well, at least you didn't say you were 100% right, mOOSH, then you'd just look foolish. ;)

Joe "hopes are up, and they aren't coming down!" C.

Of course not, Joe...I always leave room for errop...I mean error ;)

mOOSH

I've looked at pictures of other supports for flatspins on floorless coasters, and they all have two angled supports along with the vertical one. The connection pieces are vertical as can be seen here. If there was to be a pre lift inversion, given how high off the ground the turn is, the station would also have to be rather high off the ground too. I'm leaning more to the no inversion side.

Yeah, so that would have to be like the worlds smallest corkscrew ever made in the history of mankind.

Not so much.

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Mamoosh said:
I've heard the lift approach will be quite "Hercules-esque" and not the standard lift approach seen on most floorless coasters.

mOOSH

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At least Hercules actually used the terrain to its advantage for the pre-lift turn. Look how high off the ground Hydra's supports are at the 1st turn before the lift. Waste of terrain I say. No high speed turn, just a lousy turnaround. boooooo (WARNING: previous thought is a suggestion im not making any assumptions ;).