Hercules Remembered

*tries to get outta the corner everyone has him backed in

Assume, assume, assume, assume. That's what your all doing. You all are assuming I wrote a childish email to DP after one person assumed it. Where are all the chiefs? I see too many Indians right now. My letters were actually formally addressed for those assuming otherwise. Is there something wrong with being passionate about something? Passionate I am. As far as it ruining me,,,,,no. It's all your perception.

Slfake, to cure your curiosity. I am a junior designer at Ewing Cole, finishing up my last year at Drexel. Also, if your basing my intelligence on what you see of me on an internet messageboard I feel sorry for you. As stated previously you do not know me, until then...........keep assuming!;)

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your try very hard dante.

"Where are all the chiefs? I see too many Indians right now." what the heck is this supposed to mean? did you read this in a book?

the parts of the letter you posted sounded like a 12 year old wrote it so i didnt assume anything. the only thing i assumed was that you were 12 years old by the way you carry yourself on this forum. yes it is stupid to bash someone's intelligence based on what we see on a messagebaord, but if thats all we see what else do we have to base our opinions on?

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Your calling me a 12 year old and you've never heard the expression about the chiefs and the indians, gotcha. Also I never posted anything from my email, so why keep assuming what I wrote them.

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ive heard the expression, but i dont think you used it correctly......

and you said in your post above, "In my first email I said...." and it goes on to state the things i based my opinions on.

dorney, also. i think you are missing their point over and over again. you said above.

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DorneyDante said:My point was totally missed. What I meant was that Hercules held a significant place in Dorney's history and development and now they were destroying that noble monument rather than trying to find a resolution to the problem.

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in the news story it states how much money dorney has to put into the ride, and how the work isnt worth what they got out of the ride.

i do agree with you that they should have announced the closing before shuting down the ride to let those who enjoyed it get a final ride.

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*** This post was edited by eightdotthree 9/15/2003 2:17:32 PM ***

I also loved Hercules. I wrote a letter to Dorney about 2 years ago telling them to reconfigure the ride since it is very rough or (and I regret this) remove the ride altogether. I rode this beast 3 times this year and loved it, it wasn't at all rough or hurt me. Now that it is gone I guess a lot of people got what they wanted.

Also, do you think the new B&M Floorless will use the terrain to get a high drop? I made a Floorless in my DP rct recreation which does that and has loops and things in it. It is a huge hit with my guests.

OMD. It's all your fault! ;)

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--Maddie--
What do I Listen-To?
May the Schwarz be with you.

dptalon, I suggest that dorney won't use the terrain to attain any sort of height because if you go straight off that hillside like Herc did it would go out and over the lake again. Dorney mentions that the ride will be 400 ft away from haines mill rd. But ya never know, maybe. I'd love to see a record breaking floorless. They most likely will use the terrain to their advantage though, but not to attain height. However, this is just my suggestion.

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*** This post was edited by DorneyDante 9/15/2003 2:58:16 PM ***

Isn't the new ride supposed to be 3200 feet long?

I wouldn't get my hopes up about any height or drop records.

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Dorney Park Visits in 2003: 17

DorneyDante wrote (in what I assume is an attempt to see how foolish it is to assume with out knowing all of the facts):

Assume, assume, assume, assume. That's what your all doing. You all are assuming I wrote a childish email to DP after one person assumed it.

Then DorneyDante wrote (again seemingly to point out how foolish it is to assume):

As stated previously you do not know me, until then...........keep assuming!

But then DorneyDante writes...

I would assume that dorney won't use the terrain to attain any sort of height...

Now how can you say that? You don't know exactly what the brain trust at Dorney is doing or thinking...

But enough about the assuming...

DorneyDante also wrote....

What I meant was that Hercules held a significant place in Dorney's history and development and now they were destroying that noble monument rather than trying to find a resolution to the problem.

In 1945 nearby Hersheypark tore down its Wildcat coaster and replaced it with the Comet. Wildcat held a significant place in Hersheypark's history... its very first roller coaster. However, there was a problem. The story goes that during WWII wood was in short supply on the home front (most going to the war effort). When the war ended and Hershey looked at the shape that Wildcat was in after the years of unintended but necessary neglect because of the situation, it was deemed that the best solution would be to tear it down Wildcat and build a new coaster.

They found the problem (cost to repair the existing coaster) and they found the solution (tear it down and replace it).

Move to the present. Like Hersheypark in 1945 with Wildcat, Dorney Park in 2003 with Hercules found their problem (on going high cost to maintain) and their solution (tear it down and replace it).

Its really as simple as that.

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Half of the people surveyed agree, half disagree and another half are unsure.

Fine, I'll suggest. ;) I redirect you to my above post.

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Me? I am a struggling 23 year old who is working at a factory here in the middle of no where making car seat frames for Honda's whil attending college for the last 5 years (with a one year break), studying social science, education, computers, and now communications. My father was a farmer and I spent most of my days ona tractor as a youth. My grandpa was a contractor and I spent many a day building digging and generally workign my ass off. Never had to worry abotu letting nature take it's course with that. I have been dating the same girl for 5 years. Graduated from high school with 53 other people in my class, partied out in the woods, hunted deer, listen to country music, live in a house trailer, vehemently wave the flag, and am a self admitted redneck.

Need to know anymore?

Funny how book smarts and real world applications can be so different.

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If I was part of a coaster, I would be an upstop pad on an Arrow Mine Train.
MAGNUM HAD MY BABY!

I think fewer people would "assume" (it makes an ass of you and me, remember) that you are younger and uneducated if you would put the same effort you ostensibly put into your letters to Cedar Fair/Dorney management into your posts. Saying that one should not judge you or your lingual abilities by your posts on this internet forum is a cop-out, attempting to excuse severe laziness. Proper grammar/syntax/punctuation are not that difficult.

That said, I enjoyed Hercules very much in the first three years of its existence. If I mourn its destruction, what I truly am mourning is the loss of the coaster as it was then - and that coaster has been gone for a long time.
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"It's not going to stop 'til you wise up..."
*** This post was edited by Baeritone 9/15/2003 4:20:11 PM ***

Now I'm getting lectured on how much time to put in my posts. Anymore anyone? Honestly, leave it alone already. I think I deserve an award for "most bashed" person in a single post.
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You don't even come close. CPNUT and Thunderfun are on the top of the list.....you haven't even seen any real bashing! :)

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- "I used to be in the audio/visual club, but I was kicked out because of my views on Vietnam........and I was stealing projectors" - Homer Simpson

Don't flatter yourself, Jeff automatically wins the most bashed title. I wouldn't even put you in my top 50.

You need act totally and completely irrelevant, ask incoherent questions (IE pancakes), ask repeatedly when ert on M:TR is, or host a website that costs tremendous amounts of money only to be ridiculed at every oppurtunity about how you run said site.

Do any of those and then maybe we can see where you are at on that list.

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If I was part of a coaster, I would be an upstop pad on an Arrow Mine Train.
MAGNUM HAD MY BABY!

Dorneydante, the phrase "too many chiefs, not enough indians", usually refers to a work situation. ex. I'm trying to design this B&M floorless coaster for Dorney Park for 2005, and right now there are too many chiefs (too many people trying be the boss), and not enough indians (workers).

DD, I believe that you have ridden Hercules more than a dozen times to have the reaction you are having. Forming an emotional bond with an ininimate object is not a good thing. Writing immature letters to the park is also not a good thing. Remember all the enjoyable times you had riding Hercules, and just let it go.
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If someone makes a post and you post-quote it right beneath it, you're wasting bandwidth. Think before you press the button.

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Well, its going to be a fun "eye sore". Dante is such a great name. You should stop wasting time on the whole Herc thing and just be glad you have such a great name. (assuming that your name really is Dante) Besides, there are much better things to argue 3 pages about.

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"Its not called Hooch, its called Jungle Juice!"
-Tomas, Who is tired of going by Tom

I'm certain it'll be a great ride, can't wait to ride it in 2 years. And yes, that is my real name, thanx for the cheers. :)

Dante, who finds a wooden coaster much more beautiful than a steel one.

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Dante, who finds a wooden coaster much more beautiful than a steel one.

Amen to that! It also explains my signature ;)

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