Great Adventure announces Superman: Ultimate Flight

I'm curious to see if these two Superman:UF coasters use the twin track stations for loading, or the new loading scheme B&M patented a while back (the one that had everyone thinking "B&M 4-D" for a while).

There is no new loading scheme on this one. The same loading mechanism that is used at SFOG will be used at SFGADV.

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I think I'm starting to believe that no SF parks will recieve wood again. I'm not complaining about new coasters, but give me a taste of great wood in Ghostrider and I want something to be proud of at SFMM! GCI cure my addiction please!

Anyway that's 3 SFMM, SFGAdv and SFGAm. Now someone please remind me what's the other park. SFOT? And what's the predictions for what that park will be recieving? Unless, god forbid, I've been away from my enthusiasts roots for so long I've missed an announcement and or track sighting?

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"Adventure, Excitement. A Jedi Craves Not These Things."

While I would be happy if my local park was able to procure a B&M flyer, I am slightly saddened that we are stuck with the S:UF clone model. After taking my first spin on it my thought was that it was a great concept, but that hopefully as they developed the ride more there would be longer more complex layouts. After the pretzel which is directly off the first drop the layout was less than inspiring and really short.

I do not have a fundamental problem with clones. I realize that most park goers will not experience the others. However, since I do plan to travel to other parks it is discouraging that this will delay the development of new more interesting layouts. Mainly my problem is that while clones are OK this just isn't a good coaster to clone. *** This post was edited by Enigma13 on 10/23/2002. ***

I don't really care what people think. I just think that Great Adventure is such an awsome park. I would have expected them to get something original.

It does make sense though that they will save money with a clone.

It's nice when people take trips to ride new rides. They want to go to another park to get a different experience. I know I've been to a couple SF parks with the same Batman clone. They should come up with something else for inverteds.

Just wondering, where will Superman be? I know it's going to be near the Great American Scream Machine, but where exactly?

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Personally, I have no problems with clones (did anyone complain when the Batman:The Rides were being coned all over the palce or the Arrow 7 loopers? Well, besides the enthusiasts. :) ). An awesome design that works is a good enough reason to see it being made for multiple areas, and at least the parks getting these rides are spread out.

My major problem with it is if the staffing problems of the past few years will continue. I love the flat rides as well, and seeing Evolution and Jumping Jack Flash (Huss Jump) growing rust is a sad thing indeed.

Having been to Fright Fest, GAdv is chewing up a lot of the parking lot - just to the left of the entrance to the ticket booths and extending out to about where Dino Island/Superstition is and then extending about 3/4 of the way up towards the middle exit pathway in the lot. There was already removal of the asphalt there.

Jeff, I said I was glad for locals and for the park to get a new coaster, Where I spend my money is my own accord.

To say I have no right to say my opinion as not a B&M lover, Well might as well just shut the boards down then :(

Is it right for SF to save some money on designs and maintence? Yes, expecially because this particular SF park has a huge problem with maintence.

I hate to rip on any park but when I see it as fact then I will say so.

Chuck, who at times felt a concern for his personal saftey at SFGADV. (Massive ride closures and some rides that just didn't look safe or in safe operating condition)

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Ibwmobster -

That makes 2 parks with 4 of them. And 3 parks with 3 of them.

SFGAm
- Iron Wolf
- Batman The Ride
- Raging Bull
- 2003 Ride

SFNJ
- Batman The Ride
- Medusa
- Nitro
- Superman Ultimate Flight

SFoG
- Batman The Ride
- The Georgia Scorcher
- Superman Ultimate Flight

SFMM
- Batman The Ride
- The Riddler's Revenge
- 2003 Ride

Alton Towers
- Nemesis
- Oblivion
- Air

What...No Paul Reubens quote?

-'Playa

(whose 'CF-is-oh-so-original' park has a Corkscrew, a Thunder Canyon, a Chaos, a Power Tower, a Challenge Park, a Coasters restaurant and a standard-model Intamin Impulse--as if only SF does that)

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If we are going to complain about SFGAdv getting a (*gasp*) clone - can we send it to SFStL instead. I know we WON'T complain.

(me thinks it has something to do with the 'jersey mindset)

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It's not even the cloned coasters that bother me, it's the cloned experience. I hope someday that a park closer to me will get a Superman Ride.. I think that would be great! But how about some unique themeing to go along with it?

I mean what motivation do I have to travel 1000 miles or more to another six flags park when I can travel 500 miles or less to get the same exact experience?

You take a look at coasters like "Jokers Jinx" and "Flight of Fear".. same exact coaster but two unique experiences that motivates me to want to ride Both of them. Obviously the clone coaster isn't the problem. Why can't parks do more of this? *** This post was edited by Phyter on 10/23/2002. ***

I think some certain buzzers deserve a lot of credit for that awesome animation. Great job guys!
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Ninjas are cool; and by cool, I mean totaly sweet.

Thing is with this park - it has a whole bunch of good coasters, the best flat ride selection in the world (yeah, yeah, I know a lot of them don't run all the time) and something that is overlooked all the time with this park:

Its absolutely GORGEOUS. Or at least a hell of a lot of it is. The middle of the park, with all of those trees surounding the rides, and the paths that go by the lake...talk about pretty, pretty stuff. As far as I'm concerned, anything they get from now on is just icing on the cake. If you can't find something to like about this park, I'm surprised you like amusment parks to begin with.

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If the shoe fits, find another one. *** This post was edited by ravenguy98 on 10/23/2002. ***

What is this *obsession* with enthusiasts thinking that SFI gives a rat's ass if they travel halfway across the world to ride their ride? Listen to their tag line: So Big, So CLOSE! (emphasis added). News flash: they WANT you to go to that closer park. They want you to go over an over and bring your friends. They want you to set up camp there for the entire season.

Sure, they market the extra value of the pass by saying it's valid anywhere else. But quite frankly, if you spend one day in SFog or one day @ Sfgam, any money you spend *still* goes into the corporate coffers. No skin off their nose :)

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Is that the same press release that was used for Sfog? because I thought it was supposed to be 122' instead of 115'. I really don't care if its a clone because I never rode S:UF before so now I can experience it.

I think 2Hostyl is correct. Why wouldn't it make sense for a park to clone coasters, themes, etc? Most of the GP just hit their home park and that's it. I had a friend comment to me that the ability to use his Six Flags pass at multiple parks is a worthless premium since "nobody ever goes to other parks." For most of the GP this is probably true. We are the only people I ever hear refer to Six Flags by location. For the rest of the world "Six Flags" is whichever park happens to be closest.

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Jeff-Jeff
Wood - Raven
Steel - Millennium Force
Generic, isn't it?

Sorry Chuck, but who died and made you the ride inspector at Great Adventure? Give me examples, as I sure as hell didn't see any problems the other night. Give us examples, as I sure didn't fear for my safety.

I have ridden the Jump several times, but Evolution, never. This leads me to believe that it's a manufactuer problem.Great concept, too many mechanical problems.To give you an example, Scott, the operations manager at SFA (the one talking about Batwing on the Discovery Channel show), told me that they fixed Typhoon Seacoaster, not Intamin, after spending countless dollars trying to get them to make the prototype work (by the way, I was shocked when I saw 8 boats running on Memorial Day, and not once did a boat get stuck in a block. *** This post was edited by Intamin Fan on 10/23/2002. ***

Some of the stats for the ride are off a little. Both the rides are the same height. Only reason SFGADV says 122 is because its built on flat land. SFOG is built on a small hill, thats how they came up with 115. Its the height from the top of the hill to the top of the lift.

You will also notice a difference in the stats and what is in the animation if you look close enough. ENJOY!!!

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Jeremy is dead-on, of course. Six Flags doesn't mind if patrons travel, but that's not their primary market. Most of the people in and around Chicago, and New York/New Jersey/Philly won't know or care that their new coaster is very much like one in Atlanta. Especially since said coaster is a VERY good ride.

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I would be willing to bet that if this coaster was going to a CF park, the only thing we would hear would be the utmost praise for it.

As others have said, get used to it. Or just don't go/don't ride it if it bothers you that much.

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