German news article about Stengel and SFGADV

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 12:53 PM
No, its not about Kingda Ka. It talks about a new prefabricated track woodie for SFGADV in 2006. Here's the link to the article and get a translation website (I used google) to translate it.

http://www.rotenburger-rundschau.de/index.php?menu=55&command=showartikel&ID=36773

I'm not sure what to think of it... If Stengel company mentions it, I guess its a bit true.

Sorry, but it is not Stengel, but a german company that design and built the prefabricated wooden track. *** Edited 5/17/2005 4:55:45 PM UTC by Absimilliard***

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Tuesday, May 17, 2005 1:23 PM
Wow.. Thats pretty darn interesting. Its amazing to think that they'd need anything so soon after Kingda Ka.

I'd be far happier if it came out west to SFMM. Lord knows they need some decent wood!

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Tuesday, May 17, 2005 1:30 PM
The translations I am getting are really rough to read, but it does seem like SFGADV is getting an Intamin pre-fab woodie. WOW
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Tuesday, May 17, 2005 1:32 PM
I translated most of it.

After "Colossos", the largest roller coaster of the world in the heath park Soltau, and "Balder" in the Goeteborger recreational park Liseberg, excellently as "the best wood roller coaster of the world", the company Ingenieur-Holzbau Cordes in Waffensen designs a new giant for breath-robbing leisure fun now: a roller coaster for the park "Six flag - adventure" New York close in Jackson (new jersey) great. Zurzeit are still busy with last job planning engineers of the 50-Mitarbeiter-Betriebes, then the skilled workers with their machines at the row come. The third roller coaster - like its two predecessor inside from heath Kiefern - leans in its building method strongly against "Colossos" and is in the spring coming yearly into enterprise to go. It is the first roller coaster from Waffensen, which makes the journey over the large pond into the USA. In August the weekly partial transportation begin at Bremerhaven - altogether 80 containers become necessarily being engeneering graduate Heinrich Cordes (64), that together with its son Ulf (39), engeneering graduate and diploma operation manager, at the point of the now 100 years old enterprise stand, are proud: "we are in the professional world by two punktlandungen admit become." He means with it the quality and date loyalty with the two first roller coaster Auftraegen.Cordes is pleased about order for US: "we expect thereby the entrance into the North American market.Naturally a further punktlandung requires. I think that we are concerned in the future more frequently with tasks of timber construction on international market werden."Eine special honor are it for Cordes and its coworkers that the roller coaster for the recreational park in Goeteborg (Sweden), built in Waffensen, was selected to the best world - under 156 wood roller coasters, which there are altogether. For the arrow-fast "Balder" a surface area of only 6,450 square meters was available. Here a special measure of precision and planning security were demanded, in order to establish close together with refined Schlenkern 1,100 meters long course, on that the cars with up to 95 kilometers per hour along jagen."Colossos" were for Cordes before five years the entrance into the building of roller coasters. , the 64-jaehrige boss remembers self-assurance and courage, in addition already heard after competitors would have made a backdown. Accurately as intended, the 60 meters high giant with a route distance of 1,500 meters and a maximum speed of speed confessed 120. "Colossos" consists of approximately 120,000 individual parts. Its life span - which is wood impregnated - on at least 50 years geschaetzt.Heinri *** Edited 5/17/2005 5:34:32 PM UTC by Crashmando***

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Tuesday, May 17, 2005 1:33 PM
Nice looking layout. Yes, interesting indeed.
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Tuesday, May 17, 2005 1:35 PM
New Wooden Coaster where viper is? Kind of odd to put both you're Woodies in the same area.
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Tuesday, May 17, 2005 1:36 PM
Well, I'd hope that with Rolling Thunder already in it's lineup, any new wood coming to Great Adventure would be pre-fabbed... ;)
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Tuesday, May 17, 2005 1:38 PM
Also sounds like there is a lot of land restriction in the story. So maybe they already have it planned out and its only gonna be a small foot print so its gotta be prefabbed?
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Tuesday, May 17, 2005 1:40 PM
I just wanted to post this link as well. I wonder if SF is thrilled that a tiny regional paper is spilling the beans.

Anyway, It was expected for a long time that a new-track woodie would come to the US. I have heard a long time ago that SFGrADV was destined to get it, but I thought it was canned when I heard of KingdaKa.

The coaster pictured in the newspaper is Balder, not a new design.

@Crashmando: The space restrictions in the article talk about Balder which was fitted into a very small place. There is one sentece that says that the (US) design is leaning towards Colossos. *** Edited 5/17/2005 5:45:26 PM UTC by tricktrack***

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Tuesday, May 17, 2005 1:43 PM
janf,
the layout in the picture with the crouching guy is Balder
(compare : http://www.rcdb.com/ig1562.htm?picture=3 )

Surprising if this is true. Even KingdaKa was not enough to make me want to go to SFGadv, but this may be.

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Tuesday, May 17, 2005 1:58 PM
Even without Kingda Ka, I'd say SFGAdv has the best collection of coasters in the world. But with KK and now this? There is simply no contest. The coaster collection would be so insanely well-rounded and filled with high quality rides.

If indeed they get this, I'll absolutely plan to visit from California for 2006.

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Tuesday, May 17, 2005 2:40 PM
If I get this I'll be even happier about this than KK...an awesome woodie right in my backyard! To ride a quality woodie, I gotta go 3 hours out to Hershey to ride one of theirs...but now this will become a "must-ride" every time I go! YAY!!
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Tuesday, May 17, 2005 2:44 PM

ThemeDesigner said:
janf,
the layout in the picture with the crouching guy is Balder
(compare : http://www.rcdb.com/ig1562.htm?picture=3 )


Oops..even says "Balder" behind him. ;)

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Tuesday, May 17, 2005 3:06 PM
Damn!!! Six flags is busting out the full artillery on Great Adventure. I can't complain, Mommy's house is only an hour away :)
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Tuesday, May 17, 2005 3:41 PM
Isn't Intamin the one with the pre-fabricated wood coaster track? Not sure if anyone else does it that way.
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Tuesday, May 17, 2005 3:46 PM
This sounds very interesting, Vipers plot of land is not large at all, but with some trees taken out from behind Vipers spot and some reworking of the walkways, maybe they can squeeze something intense and compact in there like they did with Balder. Just and throwing around some ideas, but you never know.
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Tuesday, May 17, 2005 3:50 PM
Wow, I cant believe this got out so early. So much for secrets. Matt
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Tuesday, May 17, 2005 3:59 PM

Coasterbuzzer said:
Isn't Intamin the one with the pre-fabricated wood coaster track?

Yup, it will be an Intamin prefab coaster, the smoothest of all wooden coasters out there. Makes you wonder how big they'll make it. I mean, All they need to go to is a little over 200 feet and they would have the worlds tallest and fastest steel coaster AND the worlds tallest and fastest wooden coaster. What a claim that would be for one park! Either way, it sure does sound like SFGAdv is getting a lot of attention, and hopefully this (well, what seems to be) ambitious effort by Six Flags in 2006 is an indication that Six Flags will be invesiting a reasonably good amount of money again in 2006. Guess now we need to wait to see the site clearing.

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Tuesday, May 17, 2005 4:08 PM
"Isn't Intamin the one with the pre-fabricated wood coaster track? Not sure if anyone else does it that way. "

Intamin is only building parts of their rides completely themselves. They have absolutely no expertise in wooden construction and processing.

The patent owner for the prefab track is Werner Stengel. When building Colossos he was looking for a highly specialised wood builder and Cordes was willing to take the challenge. They cut the tracks out of wooden blocks and pre assemble parts of the supporting structure. The Carpenters of Cordes will as well build the ride on site.

Intamin is providing the rolling stock and the other stoff that is needed for a coaster, but literally, Cordes are building the coaster.

I still think that the village paper that made this article about their local company could not have foreseen that their little story would be linked all over the planet within hours of its release.

"Uh Oh!"

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Tuesday, May 17, 2005 4:08 PM
Forced to wonder....as RT is a *traditional O-n-B* design, that would TEND to lead one to expect a more twister-type layout. But the layouts of the existing Intamin lam-beam woodies look more O-n-B in nature...

Balder: http://www.rcdb.com/ig1562.htm?picture=25

Colossos: http://www.rcdb.com/ig988.htm?picture=23

But wouldn't these be a little too similar-ish to RT? Comments?

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