"Forceless" Beemers, and why we love 'em all

I'm shocked no one has commented about Wildfire. It's almost the perfect mid-sized coaster. Speed, Themeing, Location, Smoothness, Floater Airtime, Excellent Ride ops, Great photo opportunities on the observation deck. I could go one and on. I'm not even that big of fan of looping coasters as I'm more of a hyper fan.

I think the Georgia Scorcher is another that should get honorable mention. My favorite stand up.

Both coasters are just plain fun.

Waterboy

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aanatpel said:
A good example of a 'forceful' Beemer is Nemesis, the inverted coaster based at Alton Towers in the UK. As well as being superbly themed it also packs a mean punch. If anything, the older it gets the more intense it becomes!

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Unrelated note, is Alton Towers the park where they can't build above the tree lines?

Yep....AT has a bad case of the NIMBYs....;)

I prefer the forceful Beemers for MY rides, but I understand that the "softer" rides are good business... ;)

I want to know...when did it become cool to be an Intamin fan and dislike the BM style? Seems like some people can not enjoy anything thats not Intamin...

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Legendary said:
I usually consider anything from Volcano (1998) onward to be "Intamins"...if that makes sense.

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So you're talking about "modern" Intamin rides, with the box or lattice style track... Anyone forget Walter & Claude worked for Intamin before starting B&M? Check out Flashback and Batman The Escape to see Intamin rides with B&M trademarks... Four across seating, box style track... Keep in mind, for a long time Intamin was a ride BROKER, as in they sold rides opposed to building them. SFMM's Revolution is an example, designed by Anton, sold by Intamin...

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Mamoosh said:
I think the vibration comes from crappy wheels and loose springs, not the steel.

Good point! But then why does Batman and Riddler run so well and Scream so poorly? Surely SFMM's maintenance crew should know how to properly care for the wheel assemblies on ALL their Beemers.

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I remember riding Dominator at GL during the first year of operation, early in the season. The ride was smooth except for the track after the mid course brake. That the vibration was apparent even when the ride was new, on only a part of the track, makes me think that the track is flawed in some way.

Joe, that was on MSNBC saturday morning. They said that Disney made changes to the brake sections on CS, that were not Mfg. approved, but approved by the state. I'm sure you could find it on the site, but I'm too lazy to look ;).

As for what can be considered 'Intamin' rides, I consider anything that RCDB considers Intamin rides, as I feel they are a trusted source. You don't consider Superman: The Escape an Intamin coaster, or you just don't consider it a coaster? If you don't consider it Intamin, then who? If you don't consider it a coaster, then take it off ya track record (;)).

And why no Bobsleds? If they aren't coasters, take them off too (hey, if we keep this up, Joe's gonna have as many coasters left as I do, lol).

RCDB has Intamin listed as 86 coasters. B&M as 62. I can't count anything currently in production for either because they don't have any reliability yet.

I wasn't saying that Intamin has great reliability. I'm just saying that with 86 coasters listed, other rides they make, etc. etc., that it seems that they have a problem when they have a new concept, that B&M doesn't seem to have (but, then, they don't have many *new* concepts), but that overall, this "Intamins are always Down" thing is:

A) Something I've never experienced Personally as stated.

B) Not as bad as some people say.

B&M still has far better reliability. And really, isn't that all Intamin does, sell coasters and come up with some systems? The majority of rides today *should* be considered Stengle Coasters.