El Toro replacing Voyage in #1 rankings.

Like this? :)

SWEET!!!!

I honestly don't see how El Toro could possibly beat Voyage. I mean, Voyage contains almost every element possible on a wooden coaster. A tall, steep 1st drop thats followed by two airtime filled hills; awsome laterals; 8 tunnel moments; 90degree banking; a reverse banked turn; triple down(inside a tunnel); daring speeds! What else is there that wood is capable of?

^Geek alert! ;)

LOL!

I knew it!

wait Voyage has a loop?

Yeah Voyage II would definitely need a loop. ;)

Nah, that would be Voyage IV: The trip home. ;)

I knew someone would say that!

LOL! Will there be any humpback whales involved? ;)

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Acoustic Viscosity said:
IMO, the thing that The Voyage really has going for it is its woodsy setting. No matter how insane any future coasters are, I think it's likely few will match The Voyage's environment.

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And, for what its worth, I don't think Voyage has a setting that is anything above "cool". I dig the trees and elevation change, but several coastrers pull off the terrain and trees combo better - Boulder Dash and Raven as examples, IMO.

Of course.. key words (or acronym) there, in my opinion. But, hey, that's your thoughts and all cool by me. Like stated.. its just a hobby, and human nature to agree, disagree, debate and question.

As for El Toro vs Voyage (..vs Rumbler, dammit!!), its inevitable, no matter how different they are. I'm just happy that we got what I will presume are two very good wooden coasters stateside this year, and that Ive been lucky enough to ride the Voyage already and have El Toro in my immediate future. So what if El Toro or Voyage is the better of the coasters? I think these are so different that it will undoubte3dly boil down to personal preference.

Ok, I will give yout that. Raven and Boulder Dash have even better environments--hopefully Voyage's lair will fill in a litte more. The point was that very few new coasters are built in such an environment. And such an environment (at least in my mind) can make an otherwise "boring" layout like The Beast a very fun experience. IMO, ANY coaster would be better in the woods. *** Edited 6/13/2006 10:17:30 PM UTC by Acoustic Viscosity***

It's all good, just a little comment :)

AV, I agree things that allways improve coasters:
-Darkness
-Trees
-Enthusiastic Ride Ops and fellow riders

You forgot "being able to ride shirtless" dude. What were you thikning?!?! *** Edited 6/13/2006 10:57:16 PM UTC by matt.***

Hey great Geek of the NW Rob, when is pt. 3 comming out?

Sheesh!

^Maybe he meant next Monday. ;) Come on, Rob!

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I asked as many as I could (probably 25 or more) if they'd been on HWs new coaster, 7 of them said they have been. Out of those 7 people, ALL SEVEN preferred El Toro over any other wooden coaster.

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So only 7 out of the 25 that you asked preferred El Toro over Voyage. Did they all say if they had Voyage as their #1 coaster before they rode El Toro?

Did any of those 7 say if they had ever ridden Balder, or Colossos?

^^Only 7 had ridden both rides and the claim is that all 7 preferred El Toro.

^^That's all well, and good, but let's remember that I'm not trying to defend either coaster her, because I still prefer Kentucky Rumbler, over both Voyage, and El Toro.

BTW, since we don't know the particulars of the Top 10 coasters of those 7 people. I can assume that they only have mediocre coasters listed, and any coaster that they claim to be #1 would be better than what they have listed so far.