does this count as line jumping


If there's a line, do your single rider reorganizing before hand, it minimizes empty seats to begin with & gets you through a line fast.


I defnitely don't think this is line-jumping. I did something similar to this when I went to HP last week and was in line for GB (which has 4-across seating). There were 6 people in line in front of me and my fiancee. It appeared as though the first two were together and the next 4 were a separate group. I kindly asked if any of the group of 4 was going to ride with the group of 2, they said no...so I kindly asked if they minded if me and my fiancee stepped in front of them to ride with the other 2.

One funny example of a line-jumping attempt was at S:RoS (SFA) when I was waiting in line for the back seat and was to get on the next train. I could hear the two kids behind us trying to figure out how to get on the same train as their friends on the seat in front of us. The kids behind us tap me on the shoulder and ask if they can get ahead of us so they could ride with their friends. I was so shocked at their audacity that I blurted out no as I hopped on the train.

As far as the drink machines in the queue are concerned...if you stop to get a drink while you are in line and then people who were behind you go past you while you get your drink, then I say go right past them to get back to your group. IMO, the line jumped by passing you in the first place. However, I don't think it is okay to move from your spot in line to go get a drink from a machine that is elsewhere in the queue area.

Happy Coastering!

Sean

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freakylick, I've done that too... when riding alone, and because of odd numbers on 4 across coasters there are going to be empty seats, I do ASK if could move up to fill in. I have never had anyone say "No". The thing is... you have ASKED those who are ahead of you if they are going to be filling in... they said no. They are therefore NOT going to have to wait any longer because, instead of an empty seat going out, you will be sitting in it. Acutally, if there is a group of 4 (or even two groups of 2) behind you, this actually helps them out.

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p_c_r said:

Myrtle Beach Pavilion has the worst policy. 9 out of 10 times, there's either nobody in line, nobody else there, or tons of other empty seats on The Hurricane. The devil will be throwing a snowball fight the day they allow rerides. The walk down & back through the line is brutal. I've even asked the girl that sits next to the turnstile if they could just turn it for us, that was to be unheard of. The Swamp Fox always makes you get off, but in all fairness, that's fair. The brakes at exit make it easy for new riders to hop right on the train, you staying put would be taking their seats when it pulls into loading.



Its my understanding from talking to a park rep a couple of years ago that the reason for the no re-ride policy is the unusual admission policy. There might be somebody who paid with tickets and could get lots of re-rides in and that's lost revenue for them :) Just another reason to go to straight POP admission and forget this 5.00 admission idea. Its just more trouble than its worth.

Max

Want to hear about bad policy? At the Dania Beach Hurricane in Florida they make you go around the station, which is not a short walk, and get back on even if the train is empty. They'll just wait until you come back around before dispatching the train. Instead of getting about 20 rides an hour you will probably get 10.

freakylick said:
I did something similar to this when I went to HP last week and was in line for GB (which has 4-across seating). There were 6 people in line in front of me and my fiancee. It appeared as though the first two were together and the next 4 were a separate group. I kindly asked if any of the group of 4 was going to ride with the group of 2, they said no...so I kindly asked if they minded if me and my fiancee stepped in front of them to ride with the other 2.

This is a completely different set of circumstances then what is being discussed. This is a common practice that I would commend more people for doing. It's just basic line dynamics, it will help several in the line while hurting none. Granted I'm talking about when you've already lined up for a particular seat and you can just crunch the numbers. It's also a good idea to ask before the gates have opened. Most people can figure out what you're doing and will let you through. This also helps the ops run the trains at the highest capacity. Not only are less empty seats going out, they can dispatch the trains quickly to avoid stacking. This is akin to ops calling out for single, but that practice can sometimes lead to slow dispatch times.



Incidentalist said:

This is a completely different set of circumstances then what is being discussed. This is a common practice that I would commend more people for doing.

That is sort of why I posted it...I wanted to say that there is one small form of line-jumping that is acceptable...in fact, it is encouraged. But thank you for making my point a little clearer.

Happy Coastering!

Sean

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Max, that explanation makes sense, but only applies to certain days/times. The difference between ticket & all rides admissions, I usually have a braclet around my arm & we're only two of fewer than 15 or 20 people riding at the time.

You hop out of one train, they don't let you reride, they send out your train you just left with one person on it, then you have to wait after trying to get back up there. 10 rides in an hour, I wish, but it does kill the pacing, it's very hard in my experiences to get more than a have dozen rides in any normal time fashion, They really make the tickets/bands NOT worth the money. $5 per ride, around $25(guess) for the band, I've came out better buying tickets many times. Money vacuum. One pop sounds like a good idea.

Whenever people pull that whole my friends are on the next train, I tell those people to make thier friends wait, for real it's NOT my responsiblity to make sure you get to ride with your friends, et cetra, I mean that, too. I'm not going out of my way for those people.

A couple of times, the people at the front of the Alpengeist line have asked for or been found my me/whoever I'm with, then, as we make our way to join the other two riders, somebody being ill goes, you can't get by me, "there's two of us, you don't see us gettin' in front of people". My response to that is go! Get up there, then, that's why people asked!

There's a time/place for everything, rerides are great, & can add to your fun, but NOT when there's plenty o'people 'round. Once everybody catches wind, it's over.


rollergator said:
CFM, I think pkifan was referring to the drink machines that stand alongside the line....then you're not really getting out of line, you are getting a drink *along* the line. (aside: personally, I wish parks would keep capacity high enough so you wouldn't have to spend an hour in line...). But if the machines sit "in the queue", you're still in line and can go back to where you were, IMO.


Oh, OK I didn't realize that. I thought he meant getting out of line to a nearby drink stand, then coming back!

In that case, I think it is fine to stop to get a drink then go back.

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I really never liked doing this even if a seat was empty, for the fact that it will lead to chaos. Once the people in line see it, they will try to do the same, then you have a huge group of people at the exit waiting to ride, and possibly jumping in seats before the folks in line have a chance to put their stuff away or sit down. So that's why I don't allow it, to prevent confusion/hysteria.

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