does this count as line jumping

I do not line jump.But after I ride a coaster I get off and wait for the guests to board the train if their is an empty seat after the gates close I take it. This has gotten my many rerides on riddler goliath and nitro. infact i once marathon rode goliath like 12 times in a row. Do you think this is wrong even though im just taking a seat that would have left the station empty.

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No, i dont think it is line jumping. I did it on Incredible Hulk. It most likely happens on 4 across seats. Cause I rode Hulk like 3x in a row because there were 3 people and nobody was getting in the seat. I also did that on Batman, Dueling Dragons, etc.

I would think that is alright.

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I think that is alright as long as the park doesn't have a "no re-rides" policy. If the park doesn't allow re-rides, then you should go back around like everyone else. But while I say that, I hate the "no re-ride"policy. I guess what I am trying to say is follow the rules of the park...even if the rules stink. To answer your question more directly, I don't consider what you do to be "line-jumping. It is just re-riding.

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All depends IF the ride crew allows it.

For safety reasons and for dispatch speeds, I have heard that many places will not allow this. Others may allow it, only if things are not really busy. Face it, it is confusing enough with people getting off the ride and other people loading and placing (or throwing) their back packs, hats, glasses, coats, etc etc etc on the other side of the train to worry about who may or may not be line jumping by jumping ahead of someone by hanging around AFTER they get off of the train... many times if busy they will simply say "No... to the back of the line you go."

Some places (perhaps only at certain times) the rule seems to be "If there is no one waiting in the line for your specific seat, you can stay on."

Like Freakylick said... "follow the rules" of the park you are at. Just because it is okay some places, it is not at others.

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*** This post was edited by SLFAKE on 6/25/2002. ***

I see nothing wrong with it!

At SFWoA, I always do it on SUE. I sometimes get 15+ rides just by "hoping". They also allow it on Villain which is nice. But they dont allow it on BKF! :(

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That is line jumping, as you have effectively cut in front of everyone else waiting in line. I don't understand how you can see it any other way. That seat should be used by another single rider who has waited their turn in line like everyone else. The only way this would be acceptable to me is if there is no one waiting to ride.

*** This post was edited by Camel@Work on 6/25/2002. ***

See? I always thought that would be against the rules unless there were only a few people there. I felt weird asking the guy running Raven that, when there was nobody even waiting in the que. But, it sounds like you guys are talking about a decent wait, yet just grab an empty seat if it works out that way. It'd be nice, but I don't think they support that too much at SFoG.

SteveWoA, I'm surprised there was an opportunity to do that on S:UE. Isn't that a 2 across seating arrangement? To think there were that many single riders in a row is wild.

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Camel@Work said:

That is line jumping, as you have effectively cut in front of everyone else waiting in line. I don't understand how you can see it any other way. That seat should be used by another single rider who has waited their turn in line like everyone else. The only way this would be acceptable to me is if there is no one waiting to ride.

I said I wait until after the gates close. that means no one from the line could take the seat anyway . like i said the seat would just leave the station empty, me taking it does not effect anyone in line

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I just want to ride as many coasters as posible

OK, but what happens when everyone decides to do that? What if there are two people waiting and only one empty seat?

And, if that's allowed, why not just walk up the exit ramp the first time and grab the first empty seat?

You see, maybe it's technically not line-jumping, but it opens a whole can of worms.

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I don't know about it, but if they allow it, it's fine. If the gates are closed, then go ahead and take the seat, but only after you are sure there are no single riders that are willing to take that seat. Also, I think if the wait is a half-hour or longer, I don't think you should.

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At IOA I would wait for row 2 on the DD's. 3out of 4 times there was an empty seat in row 1 and I would hop on over. I asked the ops if I could do this and they said sure. The moral of the story? If you're a single rider *never* wait for first row.

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Only once have I done what the initial poster talked about. But my situation was a little different. It was the very end of the day @ SFMM and I was riding Riddlers Revenge. After my train got back to the station I got out and turned around to notice that not a single person was in the last row. There was less than one train worth of riders left and they were mostly in the front few rows. So I jumped in, the ride-ops noticed but didn't say anything. I didn't feel bad about this because after I got on everyone else in line got on the last train of the day, so I didn't cut in front of anyone. I got one more ride in that day. No harm, no foul.

But I would feel bad if I did it when there was actually a line. Yes the seat would have gone out empty, but that doesn't give you the right to fill it. If I were standing in line near the gates and saw someone do this, i would be pretty mad about it. Everybody has to wait their turn, unless they buy their way on. Which leads me to Dens statement, that is exactly what Fastpass patrons get to do. So it's ok only if you pay for it.

That is what I was talking about, Incidentalist... it is situational. If the station is basically empty, some ops will allow it... but others may not.

Like I said above, if the station is basically empty and there is no one waiting for the seat you are in, I have had a few experiences where they didn't even make us leave our seats.

For that matter, the "weird evil carnie guy" at Conneaut Lake would simply slow the coaster down to check restraints if there was no one waiting and no one wanted off.

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*** This post was edited by SLFAKE on 6/25/2002. ***

I tried this on Riddler at SFMM, and got SCREAMED at by a ride op. She was actually yelling at the top of her lungs, right in our faces for us to get out, which is uncalled for. There were THREE empty seats on that particular row and the load gates were closed. The train left the station with (I counted) a total of 8 empty seats.

I mentioned to her that if the crew is not going to load the train right it affects the wait time for everyone. The line was huge, over 90 minutes, if every seat was filled it would have moved faster. She really didn't like that comment.

I may have been trying to "get away" with something, but she handled it poorly. I do know that the official SFMM policy is no re-rides, but as others have pointed out, it's up to the crew.

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I mean when there are empty rows. I rarley take a empty single seat, but sometimes I do if I am riding alone. On BKF, you cant even hop on a seat in an empty row because of Todd! So annoying!

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I would probably ask the ride op first if it's OK, rather than take the chance of being asked to get back off in front of everyone.

Yes it is linejumping. You are cutting in front of people that could fill that seat. Even after the gates are closed, they can be opened again to let a single rider on. Theres no other way to look at that other than linejumping.

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sfmm15-- I understand what you wrote, it doesn't need clarification. I just happen to think it qualifies as line jumping. I don't see how the gates being closed changes the fact that you are skipping the line to ride. I realize that parks send out trains with empty seats regularly, but that doesn't mean you can just help yourself to a no-wait ride. If everyone followed your example, it would cause a big problem for the parks. That indicates to me that it is not a fair practice.