You don't really think people are bidding on eBay for their kids, do you?
I know of plenty of people who have sold theirs to peoeple who intended to give them to their kids, yes.
And Chitown - despite the PS2's obvious success, Sony does more than build game consoles. The PS2 has been one of the few bright spots in an otherwise pretty much disasterous decade or so.
Rob Ascough said:
I've done a great job of keeping my old gaming systems alive. My collection doesn't include a Jaguar (I've actually never met anyone that owned/owns one) but I do have my Sega Genesis with original Sega CD, Sega Saturn and 3DO, along with about a dozen others.
I have a Jaguar. Two of them, actually (bought a second as a spare when they went on clearance). Two of the CD attachments, too, for the same reason.
Granted, I own a LOT of systems -- gets to be a strange hobby.
I wish I had bought a Jaguar because that version of Tempest looked really good. Thing is, at the time the Jaguar was competing with the 3DO and after dropping $500 on the latter (after the price was cut from $700), I couldn't justify spending money on the Atari system. By the time I had some money, the original PS, Sega Saturn an Nintendo 64 hit the market and I ended up getting all of them.
bsr241: I guarantee that Rare won't be updating Goldeneye for a Nintendo system. Microsoft now owns the company and they make games exclusively for Xbox and 360 (probably just 360 now). Besides, Perfect Dark was sort of a sequel to Goldeneye so you might want to check out Perfect Dark Zero.
I am confused on you saying they have made mistakes in the past 10 years. The PS2 has dominated the game console market (70%) and it's been around 5 or 6 years old.
Sony doesn't just make video game counsels. While up untill now, the video game market in particular has been going well for them. On the other hand, bad business decisions on their other products have plauged Sony for years.
I'm currently on a Sony boycott because of the digital rights managment (DRM). For a while, they put rootkit software in their music and other digital media. It had quite the negative impact since the rootkit was used to hide their backdoor virus. When virus programmers found out about this, they were able to hide their own software easily by adding $sys$ before the file name. You can grab say notpad and rename it $sys$notepad and watch it disappear with the rootkit. There is no way to actually see it unless you use a discrepancy detector.
So far they are clean of such software, but for now I'm staying away from any Sony product. If they don't try to pull any crap like that again, then I might buy a PS3 when the price is reduced in the future.
As someone else mentioned, that's the only bright spot they've had, and even that was largely because of market share from the PS1. Developers were reluctant to code for the thing, and did so more because they had to. With Microsoft doing an amazing job supporting developers, and Nintendo realizing they need strong 3rd-party support (the only real flaw in the Gamecube), it's a different scene this time.
While I agree that the PS3 isn't worth the price, I am confused on you saying they have made mistakes in the past 10 years. The PS2 has dominated the game console market (70%) and it's been around 5 or 6 years old.
Meanwhile, Sony was oblivious to the market's needs in terms of TV's, quality issues have crept into everything they do, especially the Vaio computers and laptops, everyone was beating them on cheap surround sound systems while they pushed traditional receivers, they've insisted on holding on to formats like miniDisc and MemoryStick (not to mention their music player and disastrous store)... I could go on. It's a damn shame that they got so out of touch.
My favorite MJ tune: "Billie Jean" which I have been listening to alot now. RIP MJ.
But yes, between the PS3, the rootkit fiasco, and the massive battery recall (all those exploding Dell laptops where traced back to Sony batteries), Sony is hurting these days.
Rob Ascough said:
I wish I had bought a Jaguar because that version of Tempest looked really good. Thing is, at the time the Jaguar was competing with the 3DO and after dropping $500 on the latter (after the price was cut from $700), I couldn't justify spending money on the Atari system.
Tempest 2000 is THE reason I bought a Jaguar, and is still the reason I keep it hooked up. The author, Jeff Minter, is now working on a title for the XBox 360, which I'm very much looking forward to.
I passed on a 3D0 at the time due to the cost -- much like the PS3 these days.
*** Edited 11/22/2006 3:52:25 AM UTC by GregLeg***
Jaguar is still hooked up for the rare excursion into Tempest and AVP. If I feel like a 2D challenge I might play Zool or Rayman(which still looks great many years later). *** Edited 11/22/2006 4:26:14 AM UTC by bsr241***
Jeff, Chitown, Matt and Rob, how does this all tie up with coasters? Inlighten me will ya. :)
My list of games though (all new in box except marked with a * then its just cart with booklet)
Jaguar System (complete with box)
Val De isere Skiing and Snowboarding*
Trevor Mc Fur In The Crescent Galaxy*
Alien Vs Predator
Pitfall: Mayan Adventure*
Memory Track (for cd games, like a memory cartridge to save)
CD System (came barely used complete in box)
Hover Strike II: Unconquered Lands
Battlemorph (sequel to Cybermorph)
Always expanding as well, I want to get Iron Solder II SO BAD but its pretty rare.
Sorry about all the Jaguar talk but its rare i ever come across anyone whose heard of it let alone has it
Greg, I know what you're saying about the 3DO being rather pricey... I was going to pass but when I played Crash and Burn on a demo unit at Macy's, I knew I had to have it. Also, Electronic Arts was planning a lot of games for the system- that was back when EA was a small software publisher that specialized in oddball, not-so-mainstream stuff (imagine that!). I've never made an official list of my ten all-time favorite games but if I did, Road Rash 3DO would definitely be on it. That game rocked and still does if you look past the dated graphics.
Rob Ascough said:
Yeah, it is a strange hobby. Unfortunately it's a lot like coasters in the way that when you tell people you're into video games, they flash you a disturbing look.
Imagine the look you'd get if they knew you were a gamer AND a coaster enthusiast. :)
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