Did anyone hear the new news on The Voyage?

I just read in the HW Blog The Voyage is getting another element.

"So now it's time to pay attention to Hill #3. And the five tunnels. And a little something extra we've recently added to the design.

It's a great new element, but not something we can discuss just yet.

The best part of it, though, is that The Gravity Group and Will are still scrutinizing the design and making improvements here and there"

GREAT NEW ELEMENT, something we have yet to see on a wooden coaster or a coaster in general? HMMM... I wonder. Please be a corkscrew, pretty please!!!! Paulaaaa... Don't you go underpromising again, you know what you have to do to remedy that situation!!!

Sounds to me like HW is doing everything it can to steal back SFGAdv's thunder from their El Toro announcement...or at least lay claim to another record of sorts. Think Six Flags would counter with an adjustment or two of their own, or no?

I think with SFs financial troubles I have no clue how they are affording to build this "El Toro." On that same note, I guess they really need to. Unfortunately I see another SOB. With a 77 degree drop and the massive amount of money that is going into creating that part of the coaster (will cause a lot of stress requiring extra track and beefed-up supports), I doubt the rest of the coaster will be all that comfortable of a ride. When that drop bottoms out and sends your body slamming back into the seat and then back into the restraints you will be complaining so much you won't care about the rest of the ride. HW is not stealing anything, they are sticking to their promise too always overdeliver any of their promises instead of vice versa like some parks.

They can't just throw a corkscrew onto the ride, can they? I am thinking it will be something like stroblights in a tunnel or a waterfall or something.

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woohooboy said:
I think with SFs financial troubles I have no clue how they are affording to build this "El Toro."

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They don't buy rides with cash on hand anymore than you'd buy a house with cash.

and im sure they figured out how to design the drop on El Torowith out slamming the bodies around. Look at Balder and Colossus, they appear smooth as silk thru transitions.

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woohooboy said:
With a 77 degree drop and the massive amount of money that is going into creating that part of the coaster (will cause a lot of stress requiring extra track and beefed-up supports), I doubt the rest of the coaster will be all that comfortable of a ride. When that drop bottoms out and sends your body slamming back into the seat and then back into the restraints you will be complaining so much you won't care about the rest of the ride.

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As soon as I figure out how the possibility of one painful element on a coaster suddenly discounts the entire ride and the chain that purchased it, I'll start working on rationalizing how extra tracking and supports equates to a rougher ride.

I guess he's a banker and an engineer!

How about an extra 900 feet of running track to make The Voyage a couple of feet longer than The Beast? :)

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

Nah...that would be disrespectful ;)

Grrr, that was my line Moosh! ;)

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BigJim4Life said:
Sounds to me like HW is doing everything it can to steal back SFGAdv's thunder from their El Toro announcement...or at least lay claim to another record of sorts. Think Six Flags would counter with an adjustment or two of their own, or no?

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SF's thunder? SF's coaster may be great on it's own right but other than steepest drop? It's got nothing on voyage.

How many El Toro threads do you see?

Chuck, who thought Voyage was a dream coaster when the details were announced even though I was pretty darn good at guessing it's layout beforehand. Im even more excited now. The rest is just gravy, New element or not :)

A corkscrew on a wooden coaster?

SWEET! ;-)

-Tina

Have you ridden Son of Beast?

Actually, I kinda like Son of Beast, but NO!

I don't think Will is tweaking The Voyage out of any concerns over a ride half the country away. I'm certain that he wants to have the best coaster he and TGG can come up with for his park and his budget. *** Edited 11/10/2005 1:20:34 PM UTC by Paul Drabek***

I am thinking the new element might be an inline twist possibly, if they are considering an inversion. or mayb they would do a double up into the third hill and then a double down on, the down side of hill three. This is just one coaster fans thought.

I know it sounds funny and strange. *** Edited 11/10/2005 1:27:27 PM UTC by WoodFan***

Paul is dead on. Count the people close enough to vsiit either park as a day trip, and get back to me with that Holiday World vs. SFGAdv theory.

Is this really a new design element or something that was previously unannounced? Just being a bit skeptical on changing the design after construction has begun.

Scott,

Raven's design changed after construction began. The lake turn was originally supposed to be elevated but was changed last minute to be at ground level...

Well with the lift, first drop, a bunch of the return run, the second hill almost done and footers poured for everything but the turnaround (at least when we were all back there on October 1) my guess is that whatever it is will be part of The Voyage's turnaround.