Denise Dinn hired by S&S

Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2002 4:51 PM | Contributed by Chitown

Denise Dinn, the former owner of CCI, has been hired by S&S Power to start a wooden coaster division.

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Tuesday, August 6, 2002 4:56 PM

OK, not to be a pessimist, but what the heck are they thinking? If the reputation of CCI under her leadership (in the industry, not enthusiasts) is really that bad, and she led her own company into bankruptcy, and the people who did the actual engineering are on the street by her doing, why would you hire her? Again, I don't know that any of those conditions are true other than what I hear, but it comes from too many angles to be total fabrication.

I suppose if they can attract all of the engineers, or at least some of them, out to S&S that could be a good thing, especially since they're pretty agressive with marketing and sales, but I'm not sure why you need her.

Interesting too that they want Arrow.

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Tuesday, August 6, 2002 4:57 PM
Wow, S&S is really trying to capitalize on these manufacture's going bankrupt. I would love to see a TA2k 4d woody, lol, jk. Well atleast we'll see some more good woodies from the owner.

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Tuesday, August 6, 2002 5:03 PM
I doubt that S&S is going to gain any money off of this, sure CCI's are good, but the people that designed them aren't working for her.

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Tuesday, August 6, 2002 5:09 PM

Maybe that is the idea. Was Denise liked and respected by her employees? If so, this is the perfect opporutunity to entice them to come work for S&S and report to the same boss they had before.

If its not the case, than maybe she knows more about the business than any of us would give her credit for.

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Tuesday, August 6, 2002 5:11 PM
I want to see some more ta2k's. I actually like S&S just making the vertical rides.

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Tuesday, August 6, 2002 5:15 PM

I somewhat expected this. I knew CCI wasn't going away for good. Here is what I think is going to happen-

Denise Dinn is going to hire the same engineers that she worked with during her CCI years, they just haven't gotten to that stage yet. Besides, they have to hire somebody, why not hire the best? Except this time, let S&S put the price tag on the ride.

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Tuesday, August 6, 2002 5:19 PM
Also Jeff, Denise wont be in complete control of the operation like she was with CCI. They can use her knowledge to get into the wooden coaster business(which they had no experience in before) and capitalize on it. If she starts to burn bridges so to speak, they can have her removed.

Now that I think about it more and more it was a pretty smart decision on S&S's part. Get the brains of different divisions under your relm and create an empire of building a variety of rides. With them trying to aquire Arrow, it gives them more leverage in the Steel coaster division.

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*** This post was edited by Chitown on 8/6/2002. ***

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Tuesday, August 6, 2002 5:26 PM
Wow, S&S is really trying to capitalize on these manufacture's going bankrupt.

One way to position yourself in an industry is to acquire other companies and strengthen your install base. My company in the Automation industry does the exact same thing.

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Tuesday, August 6, 2002 5:57 PM
Looks like they are going to be bringing their A-Game to the table, especially if the Gobble up Arrow Dynamics.

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Tuesday, August 6, 2002 5:59 PM
OMG! Does this at all mean a return of CCI quality roller coasters? I think Cobra Roller has the right idea. I hope that S&S doesn't make the prices to high that small parks can't buy them. Wait, before I get started, is it a good thing that she was hired?

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Tuesday, August 6, 2002 6:49 PM
Does anyone know if another company has hired the ex-cci engineers? They really are the ones that made all the great rides.

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Tuesday, August 6, 2002 6:55 PM
She must possess something that we don't see. The engineers did all the work to make the rides great, and I'm not really sure what she did. All I have heard is stories about CCI screwing PTC out of a lot of money thus Gerstlauers suddenly became the train of choice on CCI's. Maybe her doing, maybe not, but I too have heard she was not well liked in the industry.
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Tuesday, August 6, 2002 7:02 PM

But Chitown, it's my understanding that there's already a lot of damage done, that's my point.

I know that one CCI engineer has been hired by another firm.

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Tuesday, August 6, 2002 7:22 PM
Dennis McNaulty took a regular job from what I've heard that is non coaster related. Jeff is this the guy you're talking about or is this one of the other designers taking another coaster designing job? I hope GCI would get some designers that is as willing to put in some of the forces like on Shivering Timbers or Rampage. Mike Boodley would not do anything that extreme even if requested but other designers would. Now I am not saying that GCI rides are bad by any means but I still there there is a need out there for the more intense woodie designs that CCI did. GCI is good for family thrillers but CCI is better in the extreme woodie thrills. Now I think I should stop yaking too much :-)
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Tuesday, August 6, 2002 7:31 PM
Funny, I found Roar, Wildcat, and Gwazi plenty "intense." And while Lightning Racer may not be, I think it's one of the best coasters around.

Anyway, I think it would be kind of neat to see S&S start building woodies. Well, maybe they should get their act together on their own creations first.
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Tuesday, August 6, 2002 7:43 PM

Yeah. No offense to CCI or anything, but overall, I find GCI's wooden coasters to be, overall, more interesting, if not better coasters. Lightning Racer isn't especially intense (though Wildcat, Roar and Gwazi ARE) but, PT3000 is right. Lightning Racer is probably my favorite wooden coaster around.

In fact, Wildcat is one of the most intense wooden coasters out there. Just take a look at the wicked first drop.

That said, I'm not sure if S&S is going to create another CCI, or if CCI's ideas will be fully implemented. I'm not sure if any of S&S's new wooden coasters will be any more similar to a CCI wooden coaster than any other wooden coaster.

I think Denise has been hired for her knowledge, and most importantly, to give the S&S wooden coaster legitimacy. (Or, more than it would have had w/o her)

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Tuesday, August 6, 2002 7:43 PM
I rode Gwazi in December 1999 and barely floated off my seat and found most CCIs more instense than Gwazi which was the only GCI I've ridden to date. But my roommate talked to one of the designers of GCI and told him that "if you are a CCI fan you might be disappointed in our rides." So I strongly think that GCI is more conservative than CCI but I could be wrong.
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Tuesday, August 6, 2002 8:56 PM

I think I read someplace else that Larry Bill was being hired by he same firm. S&S.

Now we don't know for sure that S&S isn't just purchacing the West Chester OH. Location and putting it under it's banner. With many of the same people running the show.

Chuck, who says there were only about 5 full timers besides family at CCI.

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Tuesday, August 6, 2002 9:28 PM
I will admit that the designs of GCI are more interesting as far as track layouts are concerned but if someone could combined the intensity of a to notch CCI with the clever style layout found on some of those GCI coasters imagine how awesome such a ride would be!!
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