Crazy talk about PKI... Major ride removal??

Monday, May 23, 2005 6:15 PM
I honestly don't see PKI removing any of their major attractions. Although I wouldn't mind them redesighning the Son Of Beast as a simple out and back with the vertical loop as the finish. A couple weeks ago someone posted on PKI Central that the RACER was going to be demolished. I seriously dout that as well. What ever the park desides im sure it will be in the best of interest. *** Edited 5/23/2005 10:22:26 PM UTC by Airromeo4Ever***
Monday, May 23, 2005 6:22 PM
No ones mentioned Flight of Fear....

There's always been the rumor of something else going back there. Maybe they need the land?

Just an idea...
Monday, May 23, 2005 6:23 PM
^^ From what I hear on Friday, double rides on Vortex was going on, and the line was in the station, so take that for what it is. Beast was apparently 45 minutes.

^Racer will be the last coaster along with Beast to EVER leave PKI.

Monday, May 23, 2005 6:25 PM
I'll agree with that. Racer and the Beast are two that can immediately be scratched off the list.
Monday, May 23, 2005 6:58 PM
Top Gun does sit right next to the campground - where the indoor water park is slated to go. Hmm.
Monday, May 23, 2005 7:20 PM
The only ride I wouldn't dearly miss is Adventure Express, and that land is useless.

If it's Top Gun, I'll be more than upset. You can count the good suspended coasters on one hand.

If it's Vortex, I'll be a little upset, but whatever replaces it will be worth it, I'm sure.

If it's Face/Off, well, that's just a dumb move. Same with Flight of Fear.

But I think it's just a nasty rumor. PKI has plenty of room; no need to tear down popular rides.

Oh, whoever seriously thinks that PKI will consider removing the Eiffel Tower is an idiot.

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Monday, May 23, 2005 8:19 PM

Oh, whoever seriously thinks that PKI will consider removing the Eiffel Tower is an idiot.

Fo sho'
Monday, May 23, 2005 9:00 PM
I certainly wouldn't miss Vortex! Adios.

Seriously though, I don't think PKI will take out any of their major coasters/rides. They have a really solid lineup, just add to it.

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Monday, May 23, 2005 9:20 PM
You are all in the wrong are of the park. Why is no one looking toward NC? We all know the tiques are going in NC because they are sitting in the back of the park. So the question is what major attraction in HBL or NC is leaving? I know, but I am not going to spill the beans. But what ATTRACTION in being removed? Remember, it never said coaster.
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Monday, May 23, 2005 10:01 PM
Wild Thornberries flume?

Whatever they do will be great...unless they build a strata-woody called Grandson of Beast.

Monday, May 23, 2005 10:19 PM
Removing Vortex makes the most sense to me. I love the ride, but it's getting rather old and the transitions are really rough. Top Gun is several years newer and it's about the only attraction in the Action Zone that people can ride on a busy day without waiting for hours. A new coaster in Vortex's spot, combined with Italian Job across the path would really breathe some new life into that area of the park.
Monday, May 23, 2005 10:23 PM
if this is true I would say top guy... that is always the shortest line!
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Monday, May 23, 2005 10:24 PM
I have to agree that Vortex is the logical one. Especially if it's replaced with a B&M or something.
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Monday, May 23, 2005 10:32 PM
I personally would hate to see Vortex go. The Arrow mega loopers are rough, but they're a part of history. I still find it tragic that Shockwave was taken out because of protests. That dumb schwartzkoph (sp).

I don't want to see a Arrow Suspended coaster ever leave. They're really a great idea. It would be amazing if they switched to those new Vekoma trains they have for those babies.

Son of Beast's loop is too famous.

I'm putting my money on Vortex because Arrow is beginning to die off. B&M's are just so much better.

Monday, May 23, 2005 11:16 PM
Why trade headbanging (Vekoma suspended seat) for non-headbanging (Arrow Suspended seat)? For feet that dangle?

Go to the other side of the park and ride Reptar and see how much you notice your feet dangling when your skull is being bashed in. And that's only at like 15mph or whatever Reptar goes, then go back to Action Zone and take a peek at at Top Gun train flying into the station. :)

Monday, May 23, 2005 11:50 PM
I only seen it once here and I also believe it's RACER.

The only section of the park that hasn't seen a major Overhaul since Paramount took over is Coney Mall. Paramount has no ties to Coney and honestly the Racer isn't that good and isn't a draw for the park anymore. It also blocks about 75 usable acres the park could use from adventure express to sponge bob.

KI's entry way has been rumored for a couple years to be changed to Hollywood Boulavard. However that is one of the most loved areas of the park. I believe Coney could become Holywood Boulavard. The new campground will be built in the old Monorail area and a back entrance will be made to the park here that also services the Great Bear Lodge.

Chuck, Just a guess, We'll see what happens

Monday, May 23, 2005 11:58 PM
They have a ton of land, that isnt being used in the park, ie all that extra stuff behind sonny and in the back by the Beast. They would never do anything that would take away the land that the Beast runs through so, thats outta the question. The land that is kinda in the area of SOB and behind FOF is a great area for something.

Another idea is get rid of Vortex? Im kinda scratching my head to that idea, because its not a bad ride, seems to be a great fit for that area, and people do seem to like it, from my experiences there. If they do get rid of it, a B&M would look awfully nice there though.

You never really can say what the park is thinking on doing, but with ride removal a big thing with this park, i would bet my money on Top Gun as well. It just seems to me that this ride isnt all that popular, it seems short to me, and according to my mom who dispises it anyway they could do better than that. So it could be the next on the list, but why oh why would you get rid of two suspended coasters in the same park, and to get rid of a breed of coasters that just arent around that much, just seems plain wierd but who are we to guess at what a park is gonna do. They have done some wacky things at parks all across the U.S. Before.

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Monday, May 23, 2005 11:59 PM
Logically, the most obvious piece of equipment to remove from PKI would be that colossal waste of space over in H-B, the water-spraying walk-through thing. It takes up a lot of ground, it has a limited appeal, it requires a large staff to operate, and it is UGLY.

With the removal of all the HB characters except Scooby Doo, the H-B-Go-Round is probably due for a refit, replacement or removal.

Thing is, that's thinking logically, and ignoring the park's recent pattern of removing the ride with the freshest paint job.

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Tuesday, May 24, 2005 12:15 AM
Well, since we're on the guessing spree...

I agree with Charles, but only about Coney restructuring... I think if anything coaster related were to go, it'd be one of the Arrows.

Even with that done though, Coney (and to a lesser extent Rivertown mainly due to TR:TR)is the only part of the park without any ties to a Paramount branding.

IT:ST (and Happy Days Diner) are the first moves in making that area more geared toward a comapny branding tie in. So if they were to make over any area, I feel that this is it. So my guess would be Vortex too. It occupies a good chunk of land, is getting up in years (closing in on 20), and it could probably leave without much commotion (along with Shake Rattle and Roll, by my estimate... especially if the flyers left like they did). I think a B&M hyper or looper would be a nice fit, have better capacity, and would revitalize the area by drawing crowds back there. IT:ST is a nice start, but it doesn't the 'WOW' factor that catches the eye. And IMO, the Vortex location needs an attraction that does just that.

As for the other end of Coney Mall, I'm not sure what could be done about it. It's so socked in with games and food stands that I doubt any attraction could go in that place unless it were small. Revitalizing this part would prove difficult, but then again, they might just change the theme without reinventing what they already have. I can't see them getting rid of Monster, Bumper Cars, Scrambler, or Zephyr (due to popularity and limited space they take up), so they only part that they really could focus change on is the back half.

What really makes me wonder is... if they were to remove Vortex, or any other attraction for that matter, how long would the wait be for a replacement? I'd hate to see Drachen Fire's fate repeated.

Tuesday, May 24, 2005 12:41 AM
No way the Racers will be taken down. They are situated in a place in the park that could not be used well. It also had good capasity and the Backwords is here to stay. Love it, I would cry if they took it down.
Also, If it is blocking, then they will put a pathway underneath it, just like they did for Flight of Fear years ago.

Ride Man-
Just an FYI, I worked in HB last season, so I do have a bias. However, the water walk through or Maze doesn't really take that many to staff. Most the time its 2. I know of alot of employees who love their rotation on the water maze.
Another point is that the people incharge of HB really want to keep the origonal rides in place. Look at Jetsons Jet Orbiters and Boo Boo's Bagage Claim (AKA Squid) for example. They are extreamly old rides that most employees hate to run b/c they are so difficult to operate. However, they remain.

After reviewing some things in my head, I still think Top Gun is a top runner, as well as Flight of Fear.

Top Gun-
Old, and not popular. Suspendeds are definatly not in their heyday anymore. The only negative I see about this one is the land. Its in an aquard spot.

This land could really be used well if this ride was no longer. This would also put the Paramount mark in Coney. The only negative I see is they changed the restraints on all the trains what like... 4 years ago? I don't think they would do that if they were planning to tear it down in 5 years.

But Who knows! I will definatly keep all these poss. in mind in the future when the ride is announced.

I hope its replaced with a "War of the Worlds" ride. Many possiblities with that theme!

Anthony Tanner


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