CP lacks loops
I don't think loops are all that important and here is why:
Kennywood had a big looper called Steel Phantom that they redesigned without loops to become Phantom's Revenge. Now, many people are putting the new coaster on their top ten lists. Kennywood is seeing an increase in riders which must tell you something too.
Cedar Point has plenty of looping coasters in Cork, Raptor, and Mantis.
OutKast said:
"Some people can't take a flatride that spins either
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"Escuse me, can you tell me where the heck the Mystery Lodge is"?"
I would be one of those people...
I can ride any looping coaster or flateride, but if it spins, I'm sick. As pitiful as it may sound, I cant even ride Carousels without becoming queasy.:(
rollergator said:
oh, and chris.....if it's a "question of taste", wouldn't you have to at least TRY Ronald's nuts before giving an opinion either way....
No, trapped in my own web!
Yes, I guess I'll have to concede that the only valid opinion of Ronald McDonald's nuts would come from someone who has sampled Ronald McDonald's nuts.
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"The perfect machine, you seemed to be, when I built you up in my mind..." - Reverend Jon Autry
wahoo skipper said:
"I don't think loops are all that important and here is why:Kennywood had a big looper called Steel Phantom that they redesigned without loops to become Phantom's Revenge. Now, many people are putting the new coaster on their top ten lists"
Well, Steel Phantom was ALSO on a top ten list of "experts" and that dont mean jack!
Truth of the matter is, there *has* been research done that has concluded that when you put an inversion on a coaster, a certain percentage of the publis will no longer ride desire to ride it. What has NOT been studied is if once a coaster exceeds a certain *height* is there a similar immediate exclusion of a percentage of riders.
In either case, those people who *do* ride roller coasters tend to prefer a *variety* of sensations. I *personally* believe it is only the wanton "airtime whorishness" of enthusiasses that feels "starved" for big non-looping coasters. I think (and this is an untested theory only) that most people would be equally impressed with a big looping coaster as with a big non-looping coaster. That is to say that if instead of the so-called "Magnum Hill" on Millennium Force there was a zero-g roll (which would be pure awesomeness, but I digress) it would be just as insanely popular.
lata,
jeremy
--who would LOVE to be upside down 200+ft in the air...
chris said:
"Yes, I guess I'll have to concede that the only valid opinion of Ronald McDonald's nuts would come from someone who has sampled Ronald McDonald's nuts."
Just for the record though, I'm not *that* big a fan of Ronald's nuts! I'd much rather have Chef's Chocolate Salty Balls...
lata,
jeremy
--just seeing how deep into the quagmire he can really go...
"gee Chef, your Chocolate Salty Balls were just the trick".....Mr. Hanky, aka Sorcerer's Apprentice-poo...
edit: CP may, or may not, lack loops, but this thread has plenty of "balls"....bill, *having a ball* with this....;)
*** This post was edited by rollergator on 9/4/2002. ***
rollergator said:
of course, I can always eat those Olestra-fries at BK or Hardees if I want to become nauseous....They're at McDonald's now
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Have you ever seen the Demon?
Have you ever heard him scream.............
1-Height
2-Speed
3-Roughness/Pain
4-Airtime (even non-enthusiasts can enjoy it or hate it, even if they call it 'floating')
5-Inversions
So, you've got people who are 1&5 phobic, who can't stand heights or loops and won't ride Millie or Raptor. Their friend might just be a 5 hater, and will ride Millie without ever realizing that they've effectively gone upside down. There's a lot of people who will ride Millie who'd never get on Raptor. Likewise there's folks who'd ride raptor who get freaked out by the 'ejector air' of Magnum (Personally, I hate the feeling that my thighs are going to be snapped in two on the bunny hops, putting Magnum low on my list at CP)
Then you've got folks like my wife who is a 1,3,4,5. She hates heights, roughness, falling, and loops. Rides like Space Mountain are the only kind she enjoys. It features none of the above.
My first looping coaster, Shockwave at SFoT,scared the crap out of me. This was back in 1994 when i was 6. But i loved it.
Now that they have Titan, I still find Shockwave a better ride than Titan. Titan for it's height, is way too short. Shockwave is 116 feet tall and 3600 feet long, compared to Titan at 235 feet tall and 5312 feet long. If you doubled the length of Shockwave, it would be 3 feet shorter and 1988 feet longer.
Is Titan really that short or is shockwave that long?
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