# CP Dueling Coaster Rumour Put to Rest?

Saturday, September 21, 2002 4:07 PM

Most people have heard the rumours that Cedar Pointâ€™s new roller coaster is actually going to be two coasters that duel/race with one another. This was based on the fact that two different colours of track arrived at CP. However, if you mosey on over the Virtual Midway you can see two pictures (here and here) in which it appears that a piece of red track has been attached to a piece of white track. Is track ever assembled on the ground like this? Any thoughts?

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The Other Siebert

*** This post was edited by Canadas Coaster Drew on 9/21/2002. ***

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Saturday, September 21, 2002 4:17 PM
There are going to be a lot of misconceptions about this new ride. First, people thought that it was going to be a dueling coaster. Second, people think it is going to be about 420 ft tall, not likely. Third, it is supposed to have a launch of about 110 mph, there is no possible way 110mph can make it up and over a 420 ft hill, maybe on the moon but not here.
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Saturday, September 21, 2002 4:19 PM
No, but at 120mph it will.

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James Draeger
-Proud co-founder of the Coasterbuzz street team

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Saturday, September 21, 2002 4:45 PM

I'm thinking a 100 mph launch and a 350 ft tall hill.

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Saturday, September 21, 2002 4:45 PM

Lets consider this
The following two statements are true (not really but for the sake of this statement lets pretend they are):
The coaster is based on Xcelerator's layout
The coaster is indeed a launch coaster

The coaster is 420(ish)ft tall and goes 110(ish)mph

how is this possible? there are two main points i can think of.
1) the station is unusually high off of the ground making the launch of 110 mph actually only have to propell the train up a 350 or so foot hill, which is in fact 420 feet in the air. This would be more possible than going up 420 ft to a 420 ft height.
2) If the station is on the ground, maybe the launch is not only for a strait section before it ascends the hill, but the train is actually still accelerating while it's going up the hill. So the coaster keeps accelerating the train while it is going upward, ie Incredible Hulk.

Just my thoughts, but I highly doubt that a 420ft 110mph coaster is 'impossible'

-Kaldaim

*** This post was edited by Kaldaim on 9/21/2002. ***

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Saturday, September 21, 2002 4:46 PM
oh no..

This is going to bring on the engineering rant yet again.

Let the physics wars begin!

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Do the Moo Shoo!

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Saturday, September 21, 2002 4:58 PM

I'm sure of two things. It won't pass 400' vertically, and neither will it exceed 100 mph. I will bet my ass cheeks on both.

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Saturday, September 21, 2002 5:13 PM

I'll take that bet, but I'll pass on your ass cheeks.

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- Peabody

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Saturday, September 21, 2002 5:13 PM

kRaXLeRidAh said:

I'm sure of two things. It won't pass 400' vertically, and neither will it exceed 100 mph. I will bet my ass cheeks on both.

I hope you're wrong.

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Saturday, September 21, 2002 5:56 PM

Come on people. This has been debated enough. Wait for the announcement.

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"I own you!"
"SUCKA!!!!!!!"
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Saturday, September 21, 2002 6:21 PM

Oh no. Not this again.

GIVE IT A REST!

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LeWiS

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Saturday, September 21, 2002 6:26 PM
The station is on the ground. The launch section is really long. One end of the launch section is close to the ground. The other end is about 60 feet off the ground, before it starts curving vertically into the top hat. DEBATE THAT.

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Jes
Jes's Roller Coasters DJ Jes
Six Flags Worlds Of Adventure 2002 Ride-Ops Crew (Have Fun Trying To Find Me!)

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Saturday, September 21, 2002 6:32 PM
Let's not forget that you will already be at about 60 ft. when the top speed is reached.

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My two favorite coasters are both named Superman.
Nitro, Gemini, Laser, Ice, Thunder...The American Gladiators!

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Saturday, September 21, 2002 6:33 PM

It's being previously proven that an object dropped from 400 feet reaches 109~ mph. Since there is a catwalk on the tower a good 60 feet off the ground, it can be hypothesized that the launched portion of track will ascend to this height (or a little less) gradually before pulling up for the 90 degree climb.

Can 360 feet be crested by a train going 110?...by 120? I say 360 ft. because I believe it will be 420 ft. Now why in the world would they have tested Xcelerator at 110mph? Hmmm....

kRaXLeRidAh, I'd take that bet, but I don't like the stakes...

Finally, if the ride is 420ft tall, can we nickname her Mary Jane? :)

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Korn Tour (With no name)--Korn, Puddle of Mudd, Deadsy

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Saturday, September 21, 2002 6:43 PM
I can tell you what physics says about a coaster design. But since I'm not a mind reader I can't guess what CP and Intamin are planning.
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Saturday, September 21, 2002 6:45 PM

Actually a few of us GTTP'rs have a nickname already for it. However, I'm not able to share it since this is a family site.

With the tracks pieced together , and the fact that the two connectors for supports are about the same space apart as the connectors on the yellow tower already, I'm willing to bet that we'll be seeing a white tophat with a red launch track and brake run. I should also add the disclaimer since I'm on this site, that I could be wrong, I'm human, and I admit that ;).

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Saturday, September 21, 2002 7:08 PM

kRaXLeRidAh said:

I'm sure of two things. It won't pass 400' vertically, and neither will it exceed 100 mph. I will bet my ass cheeks on both.

I would like to know, are you going to saw them off or is there some sort of surgery you do? Hope you have fun riding coasters with no ass, its gonna hurt just sitting down.

Its gonna be big.....

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The ice age killed the dinosaurs, we killed ourselves.

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Saturday, September 21, 2002 7:14 PM

CPgenius said:

Finally, if the ride is 420ft tall, can we nickname her Mary Jane?

I second that!!

*** This post was edited by coasterdudeOH on 9/21/2002. ***

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Saturday, September 21, 2002 7:57 PM
where is Rideman when you need him??

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Thanks for SAVING THE WHIZZER!! it couldn't happen to a better ride...

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Saturday, September 21, 2002 8:12 PM
Not neede because this has already been settled. How many times have we done the math???

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LeWiS

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