Conneaut Is At It Again

Tuesday, January 4, 2011 3:59 PM
Tekwardo's avatar

Well, I definitely think that a business making money and staying a float is a good thing, regardless of what it is.

But it doesn't seem like CLP was floating very well anywho.

Take for instance the MB Pavilion. The park provided quite a few sumemr jobs, full time jobs, taxes to the city, entertainment for locals and visitors. The park was making money. But the owners wanted to make more money. It closed because before the economic 'crisis', the company thought they could put something else there and make more money, and it would still have provided jobs and tax money. Now it's doing none of the things that it could have except take up valuable land.

But was CLP making any money? If it were making money, providing jobs, providing tax revenue, and providing something for locals and visitors to do, it would be worth it, IMO, to save. Definitely an overall benefit.

But the fact that they're begging for money and volunteers, haven't gotten the park completely rebuilt from damages, and seem to be a good storm away from closing permenantly (or at least a good loss in the Pepsi Refresh Project from closing permenantly) makes me wonder where the benefit is?

Is it providing jobs, tax revenue, and entertainment that make the money donated to the park worth it? Or is it time to hang up the gloves and call it a day? How much money do you need to ask for before you can become self sufficient?


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Tuesday, January 4, 2011 5:03 PM
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Tekwardo said:
How much money do you need to ask for before you can become self sufficient?

Can't you read? $50K more. I mean, $62K more. I mean $112K more. I mean....


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Tuesday, January 4, 2011 5:28 PM
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Do they have a full time grant writer yet? I'm pretty good at those...

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Tuesday, January 4, 2011 5:48 PM

I have no problem with a private entity seeking private donations to preserve anything. I will have a problem if they ever turn to government and ask the taxpayer to make the repairs, install new rides, etc.

Now, given the failed history of this park...I will opine that any person/business that donates might be making a big mistake.

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Tuesday, January 4, 2011 6:00 PM
Jerry's avatar

Perhaps they should buy a ticket for the lottery tonight. Much better chance of success with that I'd assume.

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Tuesday, January 4, 2011 6:33 PM
Jeff's avatar

How many times will I be right about this?


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Tuesday, January 4, 2011 10:26 PM

I wish I could control the font size on my post, so I could very quietly and in very small letters mention that even I am becoming embarrassed about having defended the park...


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Tuesday, January 4, 2011 11:53 PM
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I won't apologize for defending the current park operators during the last Pepsi campaign.

But, since the Blue Streak was touted as the needed salvation for the park and it is now operational, I feel like this campaign is kind of like double dipping.


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Wednesday, January 5, 2011 12:58 AM
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What exactly is 'The Trustees of Conneaut Lake Park' - are they a charity?


Nothing to see here. Move along.

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Wednesday, January 5, 2011 2:58 AM

No I think they are just a non profit organization, not because they are a charity, but because they just cant make a profit


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Wednesday, January 5, 2011 7:28 AM

Little research: Its not the trust asking for this, Its the lessor of the Hotel.
Hum? Why not spend some money to make some money if they feel it will improve things?

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Wednesday, January 5, 2011 7:30 AM
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But they're not spending to make, they're begging to spend.


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Wednesday, January 5, 2011 10:20 AM
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Who cares about CLP begging for Pepsi money? They're at #82. I, for one, demand to see the books of this alleged Piqua Catholic School, and want to know who was responsible for the maintenance of their gymnasium floor.

ETA: ;)

Last edited by birdhombre, Wednesday, January 5, 2011 10:20 AM
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Wednesday, January 5, 2011 11:04 AM

No I think they are just a non profit organization, not because they are a charity, but because they just cant make a profit

I would like to take a moment to recognize how darn funny this quote is...:)

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Wednesday, January 5, 2011 12:39 PM
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I just wonder if it is the lessor of the hotel who submitted the park this time as a get-around to a rule preventing the same entity from entering twice.

Skimmed their site, didn't find any rule about it. But I only skimmed. Just not interested enough to do a thorough search.


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Wednesday, January 5, 2011 4:23 PM

There are alot more noble of things on that list, then giving money to a failed amusement park for the second time.

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Wednesday, January 5, 2011 7:08 PM
CoasterDemon's avatar

I think it's good :) I think they should ask for more...

It's much better than... say... a park asking people for money to cut in line ;)


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Wednesday, January 5, 2011 7:26 PM

Amen, Demon. Amen


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Wednesday, January 5, 2011 7:54 PM
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CoasterDemon said:
It's much better than... say... a park asking people for money to cut in line ;)

Maybe if they had done that - you know, run a successful business model - then they wouldn't have to beg for money to try to stay open.


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Wednesday, January 5, 2011 8:26 PM
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And last time I checked, those parks with cut the line options don't really 'ask'. They suggest. Totally different. Conneaut is asking.


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