Confirmed: G-trains from Villain and RWB at KI--What is CF thinking?

Saturday, October 13, 2007 11:16 PM
I don't understand why anyone in their right mind would modify PTC trains as KI did. The changes are beyond ridiculous. Doesn't anyone at that park see normal PTC trains do a fine job of keeping riders safe?
Saturday, October 13, 2007 11:32 PM
From what I always heard, people would try to drag those old giant plastic mugs against the Beast's tunnel walls and stupid sheet like that (NO IDEA where I got that rumor from...)

And people on the Racer trying to hang things across or slap hands.

(edit - so now we are PINNED to our seats so it's hard to reach very far.)

Well, if season passes weren't so stupidly cheap, season pass holders wouldn't do stupid things.. well that's not phrased very well, but u get the point.

Most of the riff raff at parks I would assume is from season pass holders. They get bored and learn how to do 'cool' things.

I mean come on! Start charging $350 for a season pass, stop giving aways admissions and give us free pop! There's my opinion on like 4 different topics, I know...

But the parks babysit alot, and they're really not qualified to do so. *** Edited 10/14/2007 3:33:25 AM UTC by J7G3***

Sunday, October 14, 2007 11:32 PM

Remember Steel Venom? Remember the Pepsi Plunge? Remember Son of Beast? You act as if you can't fix something that's broken or has had an accident. We've seen numerous times recently that this chain has been willing to improve an old attraction to get it up to the standards of another park (X-Flight->Firehawk) or what may be worthwhile to itself. I'm definitely not saying that this coaster is necessarily worthwhile to any park including KI, but it still stands that it could motivate attendance and increase capacity through certain marketing campaigns as part of the park's coaster line-up.

Yes indeed its true that things can be fixed. Why even worry about moving RWB, its just not worth it. Big Dipper on the other hand...

Monday, October 15, 2007 12:10 PM
look for similar train changes sometime soon at KD :(
Monday, October 15, 2007 12:38 PM
I have no problem with the Beast trains at all. However, the trains on Villain I found to be very uncomfortable and not well padded like the Beast.

On another note, I think it's ludicrous to even consider changing trains on the Beast considering it would reduce capacity by 1/3.

Monday, October 15, 2007 1:35 PM
A reduction in capacity is one of the last thing The Beast needs.
Monday, October 15, 2007 2:03 PM
I must have gotten the unpadded seat on The Beast. All I found was some sort of high density foam that had all the softness of a cinder block.
Monday, October 15, 2007 2:05 PM
It's the same stuff on SFOG's wood coasters. Both would have been so much better with actual seat padding.
Monday, October 15, 2007 5:56 PM
DantheCoasterman's avatar How would we know that the trains would be better on Racer? Is there even an out-and-back coaster with G-trains?
Monday, October 15, 2007 6:32 PM
Cheetah at the former Wild Adventures Amusement Park.

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Monday, October 15, 2007 7:13 PM
rollergator's avatar I call Villain an out-n-back....and as horrible as Villain got for awhile there, even then I at least considered it more fun than Cheetah. Cheetah had a few months in the beginning where it was tolerable and fun. The CF park ride got better maintenance....and aged better.

HC5 shoulda been destroyed in the end by a swinging Gerstlauer instead of a wrecking ball. Ugh. :(

Monday, October 15, 2007 8:03 PM

Rob Ascough said:A reduction in capacity is one of the last thing The Beast needs.

Dude, Except for saturdays, Beast, SOB and most other rides at KI have been walk on's this year.

Chuck, who spent a hour last sunday hopping seats on Beast.

Monday, October 15, 2007 8:06 PM

DantheCoasterman said:How would we know that the trains would be better on Racer? Is there even an out-and-back coaster with G-trains?

Boss, Cheetah, The former SFNO coaster, The former Hurricane force five. Villain.


Monday, October 15, 2007 8:24 PM
Is there a race for the most posts? I've noticed some people have to post twice... :)

Anyway, If the G-trains are used on any of the KI stable, what are the benifits? Will they be less destructive on the ride or more destructive on the rider?

William W. Gray, CuratorWhitewater Valley RailroadConnersville, Indiana

Monday, October 15, 2007 9:37 PM
DantheCoasterman's avatar ^^I don't consider Boss an out-and-back. Isn't more of a figure-8?

But I forgot about Cheetah, and I actually liked it, but I thought Racer was running really well this year....maybe it was just me?........

Tuesday, October 16, 2007 4:44 AM
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DantheCoasterman said:How would we know that the trains would be better on Racer? Is there even an out-and-back coaster with G-trains?

Arkansas Twister at Magic Springs, which is a classic Out and Back (Don't let the name fool you). Arkansas Twister uses the G-Trains, even though the ride originally ran 3 Bench PTC trains when it first open as the Florida Huricane at Circus World and used them at Magic Springs until they closed down in the late 1990s and was left SBNO for 4 years. The ride seems to track well with the Gerstlauer trains, even though it was built for PTC's. *** Edited 10/16/2007 8:47:36 AM UTC by Sawblade5***

Chris Knight

Tuesday, October 16, 2007 9:09 AM
I think Gerstlauers track just fine. It's the restraints and how they hurt during lateral moments that makes me not like them.
Tuesday, October 16, 2007 9:12 AM
Jason Hammond's avatar Which is wht they'd make more sense on Racer than Beast.

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Tuesday, October 16, 2007 10:44 AM
The restraints are padded now and bruise me no more than that curving ratchet PTC bar.

I've seen pictures and video of people riding Georgia Cyclone and having huge bruises and those are Voila PTC.
Chuck, who's only coaster they bruise me on regularly is Twisted Twins.

Tuesday, October 16, 2007 11:36 AM
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Rob Ascough said:
I think Gerstlauers track just fine.

I've always thought so, in fact I always thought they tracked terrifically.


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