Confirmed: G-trains from Villain and RWB at KI--What is CF thinking?

Over at Screamscape, someone posted pictures of both of these trains at KI. I can't imagine the Gerstlauers on the Racer as one of my friends said after riding Villain a few days before that he'd rather be on the Villain after riding the front-facing side, and that wasn't a compliment.

Chances are they won't be used on The Racer. The old Legend/RWB train will be the third train on SOB while the old villain trains might make its way onto Beast.

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Maybe there trying to run this park into the ground too? [/sarcasm]

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Well, it's not confirmed that these trains will be used on The Racer. However, four used Gerstlauer wood coaster trains showing up at the park isn't a good thing in the first place anyway...

They may work on the Beast. I mean, the ride is mostly straight track... I dunno what could make the ride worse, those overdone mutant PTCs that are on there now... and I thought our American Eagle trains were bad...

Luckily for me, both of Great America's do have ratchet lap bars, but they are some of the only ones that I know of that don't fall on you. In fact, Viper has a special shock on every lap bar that prevents it from falling. Someone cares over here!

One benefit of the G trains on the Beast would be the lack of headrests... Now how bout some nice lazy boy like MF trains! mmmm!

^ Mostly straight track, except for the huge helix that consumes half the ride? ;)

Current rumor is the three Villain trains for Beast, and the old Legend train from RWB for SOB. Villain trains are the newer style, and the RWB/Legend train is the same style as the ones now on SOB.

Gerstlauers and intense wood...maybe SLFAKE is right? ;)

Is there really a need for a third train on sob? I was there last sat, and the park was packed but there was not much of a line for the ride.

I personaly do not like the g-trains because of the type of lap bars that are used(my knees slam into the side of the bar). I think the best fit would be on the racer if they use them.

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They don't have four matching trains for Racer. They have three of the newer style from Villain and one of the older style.

Is it possible that KI could be getting Villain and/or RWB? I mean, they are known for wooden coasters and there are no logical reasons to put these on The Beast. I could see the RWB train going on SOB, but I'd say it's more likely Villian was coming to KI than them using these for The Beast (unless I missed where Villian was confirmed to be gone for good).

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It would be nice to hear that they're saving one or both, but I won't hold my breath. It's a shame too. After the retracking of RWB, it was fun to ride again. Even Villian was a little better this year.

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I'm trying to invent reasons as to why it would be worthwhile to replace the PTCs on The Beast and The Racer for the G-trains. I'm not coming up with anything. I'll be hopeful that Villain is coming to KI. It would be a great addition imo to round out their wooden coaster collection.

Rob Ascough said:
^ Mostly straight track, except for the huge helix that consumes half the ride? ;)

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Well... I think the helix may be about 600 feet of track? So less than 10%, maybe?

The ride has so much straight track. Hey, I'm no fan of G-trains, but if it's gonna happen...

The ride doesn't have much 'twist' to it. I dunno...

SMARTEST MOVE THEY COULD MAKE. Considering im guessing they put about 70-100 grand into Beast in maintainance issues a year due to them god aweful trains.

Or does Intamin Fan have the 2 million handy to give them new PTC's?

Chuck, who hopes they remember the brake fins are on the left side of G trains and not on the right like PTC's.

Intamin Fan said:Over at Screamscape, someone posted pictures of both of these trains at KI. I can't imagine the Gerstlauers on the Racer as one of my friends said after riding Villain a few days before that he'd rather be on the Villain after riding the front-facing side, and that wasn't a compliment.

Who said anything about Racer? they are going on Beast. The old Legend train may be modified like the MBH trains to fit SOB. The park is very impressed with how they are running on SOB and more important, That there not tearing it up.

Screamscape said they were going on The Racer. I didn't know the PTCs tore up the Beast so badly, but I still think that would be odd to have G-trains on there.

I think we will see the 2008 announcement very soon and believe most people will be suprised on what may or may not come to KI.

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I think if G trains can go into the rosebowl at 74mph on SOB, They surely can go 64mph into any turn on the beast without braking. Beast trains are non articulating meaning they either have to slide or twist to negotiate a curve, pluse they have a longer wheelbase.

I see no reason why they would use them for RACER The only turn on the track is the far end and where it meets back up with the outbound run on the return, No articulation needed. Just grease the turns.

Chuck, who was suprised, Almost any place that got new track on Sonny will probably not need any work for next years opening. It was that smooth in those areas.