Confirmed: G-trains from Villain and RWB at KI--What is CF thinking?

Thursday, October 11, 2007 8:10 PM
Could they be just storing the trains at the park until they decide what they want to do with them or sell them to another park?
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Thursday, October 11, 2007 8:11 PM
That's also a possibility. KI might just be storing or refurbishing them for whatever park might actually get them.
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Thursday, October 11, 2007 8:35 PM

Is it possible that KI could be getting Villain and/or RWB?

Uh, I highly doubt KI would be getting RWB. Remember the accident?

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Thursday, October 11, 2007 9:48 PM
that accident had nothing to do with the train. Someone missed something in inspection or something in the track was defective.

Chuck, just my opinion but the train was intact and the only way a wheel can come out is if the track gauge is out of whack or the track brakes.

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Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:33 PM

J7G3 said:
They may work on the Beast. I mean, the ride is mostly straight track...

I'm sorry, but have you ever looked at an overhead view of The Beast? It's an illusion that it's mostly straight track. For instance, I know that two of the tunnel sections form a big U-shape from up above.

And to answer Charles question about if I have $2 million dollars for new PTC trains--doesn't everyone?:) I could see the double-helix being particularly brutal in a G-train. You need some kind of padding to absorb the laterals, and I'm not talking the natural type.

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Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:44 PM

that accident had nothing to do with the train. Someone missed something in inspection or something in the track was defective

That is true. I was only responding to what +Danny said in his post about KI possibly getting RWB as a ride. At least that is how I understood one of his posts. *** Edited 10/12/2007 2:59:17 AM UTC by caine***

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Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:19 PM

Intamin Fan said:

J7G3 said:They may work on the Beast. I mean, the ride is mostly straight track...
I'm sorry, but have you ever looked at an overhead view of The Beast? It's an illusion that it's mostly straight track. For instance, I know that two of the tunnel sections form a big U-shape from up above. And to answer Charles question about if I have $2 million dollars for new PTC trains--doesn't everyone? I could see the double-helix being particularly brutal in a G-train. You need some kind of padding to absorb the laterals, and I'm not talking the natural type.

Why? I just rode two double helix in a G train (SOB) and a much more forceful one in the past on Legend. The padded lapbars make a ton of difference and the fact that your sitting in the seat instead of being boxed in sitting sideways like a PTC. Well the outside leg on a PTC gets just as bruised as any G train ever did.

Chuck

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Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:21 PM
Like it or not. RWB is a terrain coaster and I doubt it's movable to many places. Yeah you could modify bents but it would be a huge undertaking.

Villain and Big Dipper have a much better chance, Thats even if they are considering relocating them or selling.

Chuck

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Friday, October 12, 2007 12:12 AM
There are always ways to move a ride, even a terrain coasters. You just might need a bigger/taller footer here or there and yes that extra concrete is expensive! I am just saying it is possible.
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Friday, October 12, 2007 2:13 AM
Sure it's possible, but the most logical relocation candidates are coasters built on level ground.
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Friday, October 12, 2007 10:44 AM

caine said:Uh, I highly doubt KI would be getting RWB. Remember the accident?

Remember Steel Venom? Remember the Pepsi Plunge? Remember Son of Beast? You act as if you can't fix something that's broken or has had an accident. We've seen numerous times recently that this chain has been willing to improve an old attraction to get it up to the standards of another park (X-Flight->Firehawk) or what may be worthwhile to itself. I'm definitely not saying that this coaster is necessarily worthwhile to any park including KI, but it still stands that it could motivate attendance and increase capacity through certain marketing campaigns as part of the park's coaster line-up. *** Edited 10/12/2007 5:22:36 PM UTC by +Danny***

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Friday, October 12, 2007 11:39 AM

J7G3 said:


Rob, always ready to argue


Not really, it was a pretty light-hearted comment. Ther original post just struck me as odd since that helix- regardless of how much track it features- is a major part of The Beast experience. Then there's what Intamin Fan said about the rest of the ride having quite a few curves as well.

Considering the awful PTCs running on Racer, I might actually endorse a switch to the Gerstlauers. Those trains are fine except for the restraints that make themselves known when laterals enter into the equation... something the Racer doesn't have since it's a straight out-and-back design.

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Friday, October 12, 2007 12:04 PM
^Pretty much my thoughts exactly regarding G-trains, PTCs, and KI's wood....

I am the coaster-train junkie... :)

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Friday, October 12, 2007 12:09 PM
Is there a 12-step program for that? ;)
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Friday, October 12, 2007 3:08 PM
Zambezi Zinger, a terrain coaster, has a new home (how stupid was that to get rid of that ride!!???)

I wish someone would save the Revolution now...

RWB? I rode it that first year during the ACE coaster con dozens of times. It was fast and smooth then. But only one or two (and decidedly violent) moments of air time. So much of the ride is 'flat'. I don't think anyone would really want it. It's a pretty 'inert' ride.... well then, so is Raging Bull :) But people love it! It looks good :)

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Friday, October 12, 2007 4:07 PM
If they put the G-trains on any of the coasters at KI, you can count me out from ever riding them again. I have never had a good, or even decent ride with G-trains.

-Tambo

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Friday, October 12, 2007 6:19 PM
Son of Beast with the G trains is considerably better than it was with the Premier trains. I was pleasantly surprised.
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Friday, October 12, 2007 6:38 PM

Rob Ascough said:
Is there a 12-step program for that? ;)

Not yet, but quite a few of us could use it :) From what I see (booze, food, drama) many enthusiasts are headed for the 12 step rooms one way or another. Good thing I already found em! I know, different topic ;)

Kings Island is kinda oppressive for me. The former red white and blue glory of the Racer is now black and white. The trains are a nightmare to ride and look at.

Same with the Beast. But it's painted brown now.

And the rides they give seem a far cry from even the early 90's...

The snappers are gone, and I really like King Kobra too! That giant frisbee thing is cool though!

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Saturday, October 13, 2007 4:21 PM
How bout puttin 'em on Vortex?
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Saturday, October 13, 2007 8:59 PM
Beast and Racer were horrible when I rode them in July... Anything would be an improvement over those horrible Frankenstein trains! Why can't KI leave things like they were originally?
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