Coasters that leave the track?
Great 'chain' analogy, Bogeyman ;-)
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Okay, so here's what you have to do. Before the passangers get on, make them put on a knapsack with a parachute inside. Then, on the jump have there be censors all around so if the train goes into one specific "zone," then the restraints will release and the people fly into the air, have their parachutes open automatically and have them come safely to the ground slowly, landing far from the wrecked train.
If that doesn't work, just do everything that I said in my last post (with the operator by the jump), except that the wheels have motion sensors that are hooked to the track so when it is on the track, the upstop wheels are in place, but then once it leaves the track it releases, then rejoins when the train rejoins the track again. Also, have padding underneath the jump...
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The only way that I could foresee a possible jump would be on a very tall coaster that has a vertical drop. The jumped portion of rack wouldn't be very large, and the portion of track on the other side of the jump would start from a point, and then progressively get larger until it was as large as the original rails. The progessive change would give the springs a chance to go back to their original position without having a sudden change from nothing to the rails.
This would cause the springs to wear out faster, but this is the only was I see this working right now. I guess it could also work it there was a launched ride that calculated everything from weight of the train to windspeed, but I don't see this being attempted for a while, if it every is attempted.
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Or how about this? This is a completely new idea. I had originally thought of this idea for an entire coaster, but it would be much better if it was just for a jump. Once the train leaves the track is completely operated by magnets until it enters the track again. There are magnets all around the track positioned in perfect places, so that the train is basically "controlled" by the magnets and cannot move in any direction except for forward (or if the designer wants it to turn...), until it connects back onto the original track where is then run by that. So it would exactly be a "jump," but more like, "controlled airborn." Then that could even be better than my first idea where it would land on a trough first and then center out, but instead fit exactly back onto the track. And though my first idea would be a lot cheaper and easier, would it be safer?
Of course the ride would close if it started to rain for many reasons such as the power goes out, ride gets a little slippery (...), etc.
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CedarPointNut said:
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Thats rather stupid, and most likely, against the TOS...
That's why I said that the ride would have to go out when it's raining because the power could go out...but, it could also be solar powered so it would store the energy and it would all be good. But it still can't run in the rain because the speed may increase...
Plus, remind me again, what's a TOS?
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...or you could just have a pilot (meaning ride op) in the front navigating the train...
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The TOS is the Terms of Service, you know, what you "read" before you joined the site.
And a train on a coaster doesn't need rain to increase or decrease speed, its all about weight. Like I said before, in order for a train to clear a gap, it would need a certain amount of weight, and in order to not clear the landing, you need to not have too much weight. The amount of weight you could have would not vary too much, therefore making loading on the coaster horrible, trying to balance that weight out, telling people to get on and off. It would take a good 10 minutes at best to load one train.
Not to mention that it would only be able to operate in certain weather. And you would have to replace the "landing" so often, it would be a maintance nightmare. Think about how strong the wheels, supports, and track would have to be in order to sustain a landing from a 20,000 pound train.
CedarPointNut said: "That's why I said that the ride would have to go out when it's raining because the power could go out...but, it could also be solar powered so it would store the energy and it would all be good. "
Sorry, but first, the power can go out when it isn't raining and second, solar power is not nearly efficient enough to store to amount of power you wish to use. A calculator can be solar powered because it uses very little electricity, but you could not plug the electromagnetic system to which you refer into your wall at home. It requires ridiculously large amounts of energy to maintain the magnetic field you specified.
Well, yeah, I know that a poweroutage can be caused by many ways. However, since there are such things as solar power-plants, they could use that electricity for the coaster. Also, they could use both Solar and regular electrical power to run the ride, and have energy stored.
Also, in response to what Rubber Ducky said, yes, maintenance would be high and this would require a lot of inspections and high running cost.
And finally, tonight I built a coaster in RCT that has a jump and is set up like how my first idea is (with the trough @ the end of the jump). Obviously it doesn't go over the jump without crashing, but it does give a general view of response on the last page. Unfortunately, I do not know how to post a screenshot, so if anybody knows, please tell me.
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CedarPointNut: You are referring to solar power plants being used to collect energy. These use mirrors to focus sunlight on water to create steam to turn a turbine. This requires an extensive amount of space and is very complex. The type of solar energy you are thinking of uses photovoltaic cells (like the ones you see in calculators.) As for storing energy, do you know how many batteries and power checking systems you would need? It is completely ridiculous to think that any such system could exist.
As for the trough idea, it's also ridiculous to think that it could be, in any way, safe. No such coaster can or will ever exist, so long as the industry lives on its safety record.
On a side note, it is not necessary for you to have your birthday in your profile... we can all tell how old you are.
Why is everybody being so mean to me?
They have solar power-plants. They could use their electricity if there is one nearby. Also, if the trough idea doesn't work, what about the magnet? Or maybe, instead of the solar power that it could have a spare battery that is constantly charging so they wouldn't have to worry about the power going out.
And, JoNoJ27, that last comment was just rude.
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GhettoCoaster said:
What if they invent invisible paint and paint a huge gap in the track with it and people will think that its a gap but its not bc of the invisible paint!
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At first glance, this comment is ridiculous. Invisible paint? C'Mon!
But it's got the right idea. In the right lighting with the right materials, you could create the illusion of a missing section of track. This isn't an impossible idea, although the coaster would have to be an indoor themed model (or at least travel indoors for the missing section).
Example: When you see David Copperfield vasnish a Car on a live stage, do you think it really vanished? Nope. In fact, most likely, it's still right in front of you, you just don't see it. I've worked with illusionists for several years and this idea is definately plausible if a park wanted to do it.
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Power isn't even the real issue, it is the fact of getting something to land on the track. All you can do is hope for the best, and no park is going to hope for the best.
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Closed topic.
