Coasters that leave the track?
and I also want the 100th post
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*** This post was edited by CedarPointNut on 9/5/2002. ***
Haha...me owning my own park, that's funny. Considering I wouldn't know the first thing about managing a park and will never have the amount of money it takes to open a park, I think your theory about "RubberDucky Land without Jumps" will never happen, I hate to disapoint you. And I have no idea what your goal is in life, but if you want to own a park, go for it! But please don't name it "CedarPointNut's Land with Jumps."
Furthermore, any park with a coaster that has "coaster jumps" in it will go out of business before you know it, due to um...people dieing! And say there is a way to build this coaster safe, the maintaince on it would bring in less money than the coaster would make...hey, maybe I do know the first thing about park managment. :)
Instead of arguing, please explain to me how you plan to make supports for a coaster that will withstand the impact of a landing with a 20,000+ train that won't have to be replaced once a month? And how to pland on it not going airborn? And still be suitable for quick loading and average maintance? If you can explain these things to me I swear I will change my name on here to "CoasterJump."
GOOD LUCK!
I'll play Devil's Advocate here since I don't see the jumping coaster being practical. The Navy regularly lands multi-ton machines on a deck with steel supports so that shouldn't be an issue here.
Back to the objections. So we've got bobsled-style track which will thread back to tubular rails something like the hybrids do now. We've got a short jump to mitigate problems with the cars falling out of alignment. It's enclosed to take wind and weather out of the picture. Everything's a go. And a train full of happy customers loses a wheel on the ramp going into the jump so they don't quite make it across, but make it far enough for the first car to go over the edge and have the rest of the train follow it. :( How high off the ground is our jump?
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At least riders would die with a clean t-shirt [can't say the same for their underwear] ;-)
Moosh
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Idea # 1: I would like to mention that the original post was about coasters leaving the track, and said nothing about having a jump. Therefore, the coaster is built on top of a cliff. It has a regular ride, except that the car is basically enclosed, because it has a tarp over the top, held up by poles. Then, when it seems like there is going to be a break run, the track runs a little off the cliff (going straight), and then ends. The train begins to fall except for the fact that the tarp isn't attatched to the poles by a long string (not too long though), so the tarp opens, giving the riders a smooth glide to the bottom of the cliff. It will unload whereever it lands, then quickly put back on a track where a chain takes it back up to the station.
Idea # 2: Just have wheels made of foam so it has a smooth landing! (jk)
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RubberDucky: My goal in life IS to open an amusement park.
*** This post was edited by CedarPointNut on 9/5/2002. ***
CedarPointNut, there is a number of problems with that, the most obvious being wind. Parachuters who control where the land have a problem landing in a certain spot, who's to say a "car" to a coaster that isn't controlled isn't going to land in a nearby lake or river?
And you are going to have to make one strong and large "parachute" in order to hold a "car" full of people, making the wind that much more of a problem.
And have you ever seen a parchuter land? They land pretty hard, therefore making the maintance on those "cars" all that much more of a problem.
I don't know of any parks that are located near a tall enough cliff, and I don't know of any that would want to be considering it would be hard to get people to the top of the rock.
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How about if you take an Intamin Bobsled car like on La Vibora and modify it so it has 2 axles with big air filled rubber tires (the landing wheels) and then behind the front axle and in front of the back axle, it has the normal bogeys so when it lands, it can reconnect with those instead of having extra wheels on the bogeys and putting a lot of stress on them.
(If that didn't make sense to you, don't worry, probably didn't make sense to a lot of people, I'm terrible at explaining things.)
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Having a jump would not require it to be a gap jump. The bobsled track could extend beneath the steel track so that regardless of the distance jumped the car has a place to land. The landing hill would have to be at a sufficient angle to cushion the landing so that most of the g-force is absorbed after touch down.
Alan T.
Back inuries to the right, head and neck injuries to the left, all others continue to the second first aid station outside of the queue area. Ladies and gentlemen...the Flying Bobs will be closed until we get a new supply of back boards. We are sorry for any inconvenience this may cause and enjoy the rest of your day at X-tremeland.
Even if you have a separation (not EVEN a jump) in the track that's less than a foot and lower enough to where it didn't have to maintain THAT much speed, I don't think you're taking into account just how much that would hurt. Are you planning on using wooden trains? I'm confused as to why you would want what would basically be a gimmick coaster that only hurts people IF IT WORKS PERFECTLY??
There are enough wooden coasters that hurt bottoming out of the first drop with NO seperation in the track.
Best of luck though, my young neophyte.
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Go Gamecocks!!
*** This post was edited by Homey G. on 9/6/2002. ***
Still think your selling short the potential of future engineering there, Brian....
BTW, where exactly would you like the Gamecocks to go?...
edit: spent so much time here lately, can't even spell you're...(your, yore, ewer?)...man, I need an English teacher, bad!
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CedarPointNut said:
The only problem I am having is the comfort of the landing. I like the ideas of having the mega-air tires, but what if they pop? You're pretty much screwed.-----------------
The problem is you have never engineered a real coaster before. Just making drawings and what not does not mean that gravity is going to agree with you. There is so much math that goes on in making a regular coaster, never the less one that is going to do something that has never been done before.
Landing is your ONLY problem, I think not...
And even mega air tires would not work, you would need HUGE shocks. That Gone in 60 Seconds crap ain't real, if you jump even a couple feet in the air with a car, your car is screwed, and same goes for coaster trains. I think it would be funny to see a coaster train bottom out though.
Don't get me wrong, I think it is great that you want to design coasters. But get some education in the field before you go sending in your ideas to Intamin.
*** This post was edited by RubberDucky on 9/6/2002. ***
Closed topic.
