CoasterBuzz Club!!! NOT
For those who are complaining...all I can say is that my $20 is helping the webmaster run this site, supporting your ability to log on and participate in these discussions for FREE. What is there to complain about?
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If you're skating on thin ice, you may as well tap dance.
*** This post was edited by BuffaloGal on 11/1/2001. ***
GeaugasViewWeb: Do you think I've got that kind of time to waste on playing favorites with parks? I'll set something up at any park that will talk to me, and for the record, Cedar Point does not do club-specific events. If you feel so strongly, why haven't you just deleted your account and gone away?
I still don't understand where the hostility comes from some of you. I wish there was something that silly I had time to worry about or be angry about.
76 members strong in 48 hours... thanks guys!
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Jeff - Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com
"As far as I can tell it doesn't matter who you are. If you can believe, there's something worth fighting for..." - Garbage, "Parade"
The Shy One said:
Why pay for the ad-free site when you can download free software to fix that problem?
Because when you do so, you remove even the trickle of ad revenue that this site MIGHT get. Jeff CAN'T pay for all this out of pocket. If you don't want to pay for the site, that's fine, but the money has to come from SOMEWHERE. If nobody pays AND people bypass the ads, then there's no money to support this site, and therefore no site.
Why do so many people just not get this?
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--Greg
"Beat the rush, sign up for your post-Mean Streak MRI now..."
My page My other page And my coaster page
I just joined back in August so I suppose I would classify as a newbie. However, this site has become the only site that I visit nearly daily and it is a valuable resource to people interested in this sort of thing. It seems like many people think Jeff is just selling out, which I know is not true. A website of this magnitude doesn't run itself and pop-up ads aren't the most efficient way to support a site financially. I fully intend to join in as soon as I get some wiggle room on my credit card :)
Forget the criticts, Jeff, this is one thing on the net I find worth paying for. After all, chipping in to support the site is the least anyone can do.
CPgenius said:
Anyone think it's funny that the people complaining have been here for less than half a year, and all the people supporting it are regulars? I guess some newbies just don't get it...
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Raptor '01 Count: 49
MF may be awesome, but Raptor is still my fav
And remember peeps, it's $20 a YEAR... that translates to less then $2.00 a MONTH....
....think about it....
*** This post was edited by sfdl dude on 11/1/2001. ***
Noot all 14 year olds are stupid. I'm 14 years old and i think it is ridiculas to pay $20, or $2 a month for something that is free, but w/ advirtsments!
Alos, as stated above.. certainn 'buzzers' do bash Six Flags parks, but how many of you go and visit a Six Flags park? How many? I am sure all of you have and you just verbally bash the chain because it owns and operates so many parks.
Just because it doesnt have as much themeing as a Disney park has doenst mean its a bad park.. Just think about that
Keep up the good work!
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Ohio...so many coasters...
...so little summertime.
GregLeg said:
Why do so many people just not get this?
I do understand. I just have other, better things I could spend $20 on, so why pay to basically remove ads when you can download something to do that for free?
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Maybe I ain't so shy!
*** This post was edited by The Shy One on 11/1/2001. ***
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"If somebody throws a rock and knocks a man off his donkey, do we say that he's stoned off his ass?
Let him go on this one. If you pay $20 for a membership great, if not then great. It is the choice of you as a person and simply that, yours. I openly challenge any person who complains about the $20 to start a site and pay for it on your own. Then lets see how easy this is for you. I am currently working on getting a calander together with others and making it as cheap as possible for people. Now my only question is how many people would complain about the pictures that are used in it if they bought it since you are agruing over a simple thing such as this where you are not forced to and is an option to anyone. Some people you just can not please is all it goes to show you.
*** This post was edited by DragonCyrs on 11/1/2001. ***
With all due respect, that just makes you a freeloader. I quote from the Manifesto:
The Shy One said:
"I do understand. I just have other, better things I could spend $20 on, so why pay to basically remove ads when you can download something to do that for free?"
2. There is such a thing as a free lunch, but don't forget to tip your waiter.
6. All take and no give only works for a little while.
14. Don't expect us to do everything, all the time, anytime you want us to do it for you.
16. Free is not always free.
21. Which do you value more? Our services or an Extra Value Meal?
22. When you "cheat" the system, it hurts the giver more than it helps the taker.
26. Bandwidth is not free.
27. Nobody is forcing you to use our stuff.
38. We made a choice to do this, but we also have the right to change our minds.
46. Our business plan consists of one goal: be here tomorrow.
47. If we ever develop a "pay for" option, we'll have good reason to do so.
48. Even if we do develop a "pay for" option, you don't have to buy it.
59. Go ahead and call us "sellouts." You're wrong.
60. Take us for granted and soon there will be nothing left to take.
67. The advertising market has changed; we have struggled to remain the same.
69. This is a full-time job, whether we have another one or not.
You clearly find value in what you see here or you won't post or visit the site. Given that, why do you find it so easy to steal from me? That's essentially what you're doing.
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Jeff - Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com
"As far as I can tell it doesn't matter who you are. If you can believe, there's something worth fighting for..." - Garbage, "Parade"
GregLeg said:
Why do so many people just not get this?
We DO get it, GregLeg. But you guys need to get THIS.....not all of us have the time online to constantly close out pop-up ads, and/or visit those advertisers! I never click on pop-up ads. I don't waste my time, or effort, to go to a site that advertises something that 99.5% of the time offers something that I am totally not interested in. No offense to Jeff, but my opinion is that if you want to operate a website, you need to be prepared to fork out the money that it costs to run that site each month. I'm disgusted that I even have to close out pop-up ads I encounter when logging on to a major ISP - I'm already paying them $21.95 a month!
Also.. Jeff, thanks for all the hard work in making such a great site, and making that site even better. Now I don't yell at my computer nearly as much as I used to.
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AIM: Pritti Kittie
"Imagine all the people.. living life in peace.." -John Lennon
Jeff said:
You clearly find value in what you see here or you won't post or visit the site. Given that, why do you find it so easy to steal from me? That's essentially what you're doing.
Now I DO take offense at THAT comment, Jeff - because it is the biggest bunch of horse manure I have ever read. Your logic is a little flawed....my ISP forces pop-ups on me, regardless of the fact that I pay them $21.95 per month. So how is THAT stealing from them, when I choose not to click on those ads? I'm ALREADY paying them. Plus, how DARE you make us feel guilty for visiting a site that you have FREELY chosen to create, and offer. If YOU want us to pay to visit your site, then you might as well make it a private members-only site, because I'll be darned if I will click on a stupid pop-up ad, and waste my time visiting an advertiser that offers a product I am not interested in. I have limited time online, and I am obviously wasting it right now by writing this - you won't see my point, I'm sure. So rest assured, this will be my final post in your website. You may delete my membership - in fact, I insist you do.
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"If somebody throws a rock and knocks a man off his donkey, do we say that he's stoned off his ass?
By the way, re-read 6, 27, 38, 48 and 60, then save your lecture about what I'm obligated to give you.
Good bye. It'll be a struggle, but I'm sure CoasterBuzz will go on without you.
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Jeff - Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com
"As far as I can tell it doesn't matter who you are. If you can believe, there's something worth fighting for..." - Garbage, "Parade"
jeff, forget those punks...i LOVE youre site as i have stated in many posts and emails...and like a few others, as SOON as i get some stuff paid off, consider me in the club!! i mean, i really wanna do whatever i can to help you keep this site running...im not rich, but hey, if i can help with $20, then im there!! rock on Jeff...thanks for makin a place for TRUE coaster enthusiasts to mingle!!!!!
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ROLLERCOASTERS....BETTER THAN OXYGEN BABY!!!!!!
You guys can even gloat all you want about how smart you are in knowing that you can still access it for free.
But just remember this one thing: If those of us who felt it was worth the $20 to join hadn't done so, Jeff would have run out of money soon enough and then there would be NO Coasterbuzz at all. With coaster sites dying off faster than ever, there won't be many alternate choices left to go to.
So if you want my opinion on it all, you can either PAY UP or SHUT UP and enjoy what we are, in essence, paying for you to use.
::steps off his soap box::
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James Draeger
http://draegs.tripod.com/
"Legend is a wooden Jesus"
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