Chang track at SFGam.

Wednesday, November 11, 2009 7:09 AM

Here are a few pics of it.
http://changsfgam2011.blogspot.com/

And Duane Marden who runs rcdb has now said it is there in storage.
http://www.rcdb.com/8932.htm


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Wednesday, November 11, 2009 8:48 AM
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To be fair, the pics show stairs and a support. No track.

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Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:40 AM

Is anyone like me and a tiny bit perplexed by the fact that SFGAm is getting a second standup coaster? Wouldn't it have made sense to send the ride to a major park without a standup coaster (Great Adventure, SFOT, Fiesta Texas or SFStL) and get another ride for SFGAm if a new coaster is deemed to be a necessary addition? I can't see people standing in line to ride Iron Wolf if Chang is in the same park because it's not like Iron Wolf does anything that Chang doesn't do, and then some.

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Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:44 AM

I agree that if I was in charge, I would have sent that coaster some where else as well. I don't think Iron Wolf is going anywhere.

Maybe it's a height variance issue thing. Isn't there always an issue at SFGAm about the height of their rides? If so, maybe this is their answer to keep adding A coaster to the park without having to request a variance.


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Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:58 AM

SFGAm must get a variance for any ride over 125ft tall so Chang will need a variance, but I don't think Gurnee has ever given the park any problems with that. SFGAm can never build anything taller than Sky Trek Tower.


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Wednesday, November 11, 2009 11:02 AM

Mamoosh said:
To be fair, the pics show stairs and a support. No track.

Your are right Moosh, it is the staircase and a support. Regardless, the coaster is at SFGAm, and you guys that say a conversion can't happen? If the 2 Chang trains end up on Iron Wolf for the 2010 season, I bet we will see a conversion to 3 floorless trains on this coaster no matter what they theme and name it to.


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Wednesday, November 11, 2009 11:27 AM
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Chang's track & trains may be end up at SFGAm but the track will only be there temporarily. It is headed for another park east of the Mississippi (with a stop near the Ohio River first).

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Wednesday, November 11, 2009 12:43 PM
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Mooshbag. ;)


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Wednesday, November 11, 2009 1:06 PM
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Rob Ascough said:
Is anyone like me and a tiny bit perplexed by the fact that SFGAm is getting a second standup coaster? Wouldn't it have made sense to send the ride to a major park without a standup coaster (Great Adventure, SFOT, Fiesta Texas or SFStL) and get another ride for SFGAm if a new coaster is deemed to be a necessary addition? I can't see people standing in line to ride Iron Wolf if Chang is in the same park because it's not like Iron Wolf does anything that Chang doesn't do, and then some.

This makes about as much sense as them moving the slc from great escape to la rande.


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Wednesday, November 11, 2009 1:19 PM
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Lord Gonchar said:
Mooshbag. ;)

I'm just reporting what the grapes say. Sometimes they're right, sometimes not. Usually they are.

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Wednesday, November 11, 2009 2:26 PM

Should be a fun ride come 2011. The Sky Trek Tower will be lonely over there until this new ride opens up, especially if the go karts are moved and Space Shuttle America is demolished for the 2010 season.


Brad

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Wednesday, November 11, 2009 2:33 PM
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Mamoosh said:
Chang's track & trains may be end up at SFGAm but the track will only be there temporarily. It is headed for another park east of the Mississippi (with a stop near the Ohio River first).

So... it's going back to Kentucky Kingdom?? ;)


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Wednesday, November 11, 2009 3:31 PM

Mamoosh said:
Chang's track & trains may be end up at SFGAm but the track will only be there temporarily. It is headed for another park east of the Mississippi (with a stop near the Ohio River first).

Care to explain logistically, why they would do that?

Last edited by Chitown, Wednesday, November 11, 2009 3:49 PM

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Wednesday, November 11, 2009 3:48 PM

Well, there are three other SF parls east of the Mississippi: GAm, GAdv, and SFNE.

From a logistic standpoint, I can see how they would put the parts on a barge and float them across the Great Lakes, them ship them by truck or rail to the final park.

If they shipped all by truck, they would need about 500 truckloads (I'm guessing).

For example: If Chang is headed to SFNE, and the parts are in Chicago, they can strap it to one train load (about 100 flatcars or covered gondolas) to the cloesest rail terminal, which would be either Albany, NY or Worcster (it rhymes with rooster), Mass. Due to the fact that either of those two terminals is about two hours away, one truck can haul 2-3 loads within one 12 hour day.


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Wednesday, November 11, 2009 3:58 PM
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Chitown said: Care to explain logistically, why they would do that?

The track is scheduled to go to Park X in 2011. In its place will be a waterpark expansion. Before going there the track it has to stop at Company Y, but Company Y is not ready for it. They can't store it at the park in Louisville so in the interim they're holding it at the next-closest park: SFGAm.

Remember, this is the same company that held the old Anton shuttle from Great America (Santa Clara) at their park in Vallejo for over a year before sending it to Louisville for spare parts. And the same company who sent an SLC to Lake George, then packed it up and sent it to Montreal.

Last edited by Mamoosh, Wednesday, November 11, 2009 4:00 PM
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Wednesday, November 11, 2009 4:39 PM

I am just hoping your sources are wrong Moosh.

We shall see. :)


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Wednesday, November 11, 2009 4:54 PM
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I have heard another rumor latey (from the new Hostess pie employee!!! Yes, they have blueberry and peach.) that Chang will infact (contrary to some other rumors) go floorless. Ha! Chang's trains are going to Iron Wolf.


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Wednesday, November 11, 2009 6:02 PM
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When Chang reopens it will remain a stand-up coaster.

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Wednesday, November 11, 2009 6:05 PM

Deamon, is this mythical person anything like the Lemon Chill guy? ;)


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Wednesday, November 11, 2009 8:16 PM

Wouldn't actually surprise me if it ended up at SFNE or SFGAdv. Either park is a better fit than SFGAm, though SFNE "needs" it a bit more as size-and-element-wise it's more comparable to GAdv's Medusa/Bizarro than NE's Batman: The Dark Knight.


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