Cedar Point's Blog is teasing us!

great story matt. *** Edited 3/17/2006 12:57:41 PM UTC by rider85***
I have read the story twice now and don't get it (sorry matt - keep the day job).

If it's five years in the future, Maverick is built. The story hints what it isn't, and obviously it wasn't good, but what's the point?

A coaster that is being built 2 years in advance is a disapointment to CP and Mr. Kinzel? Possible for sure, but given their history, unlikely imo.


Tom

Awesome story matt.! tell another one. :)

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What is there to get, Thom? It's just a story... meant to entertain.

Nice story Matt.

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Thom25 said:
I have read the story twice now and don't get it (sorry matt - keep the day job).


I was just goofing on the silliness of the whole 500 footer thing and the going out with a bang thing. Don't look to hard into it.

In other news my day job actually *is* posting Cedar Point fan fiction on internet message boards, so thanks, you've pretty much ruined my life.

Just kiddng.

Maybe. *** Edited 3/18/2006 12:42:32 AM UTC by matt.***

(Applauds!) In-freekin'-credible!

I wish we could vote for post of the week. matt. would win this one!

Moosh, the question I need to ask is why are you convinced it isn't?

Tom

Matt, glad to see you have a sense of humor.

I am sorry, but I'm in the camp hoping it is a 500 footer. I do have an open mind, and would love any of you non-500 footer guys to show me the facts that confirm it won't be.

I still think it's anyone's guess - but 2 years in advance, CP's history, and the need/percieved desire for a reliable ride, narrows the choices imo.


Tom

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And I would love any of you 500 footer guys to show me the facts that confirm it is!
Well considering there are a ton of posts saying it is not coming, and not any saying it is coming, I think there is only one side of this one sided debate that really has a statement to prove.
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I think the problem that I'm having is that most of the people who think a 500 footer *could* be coming are the people who would actually want to see it happen.
Well, maybe confirm is a bit strong - but with construction having started, AND multiple footers already poured, with some appearing to be VERY large, these appear to be strong indicators that the ride will be BIG, imo.

If the ride has loops (which are long overdue) then Maverick would not need to break 500, but it could. If the ride has no loops, then it would almost certainly have to regain the height record.

Maybe the debate boils down to: Loops or no loops? I only see three possibilities: 4D, mega looper, or 500+ footer.


Tom

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Thom25 said:
If the ride has no loops, then it would almost certainly have to regain the height record.


And again the masses scream "WHY? WHY? WHY? WHY?"

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Thom25 said:
If the ride has no loops, then it would almost certainly have to regain the height record.

If it's a wooden coaster, would it really have to regain the height record? 99.9% of wood coasters have no loops.

Just because footers have been poured early doesn't mean diddily. Best to get the footers over with during the OFF-season instead of during the crowded open season where that area of the park would look like a mess with construction equipment & diesel smog... especially where they just opened up their newest attraction. So just because it's started this early doesn't mean that it's going to be HUUUUUUUGE... it just means that they're getting it out of the way NOW, instead of doing it later during the season when major work needs to be done.

Get the footers done now & then all that's left will be the actual vertical construction which could, in theory, be done towards the end of the regular season with more heavy work done from September on until the snow & temps limit construction.


Thom25 said: I only see three possibilities: 4D, mega looper, or 500+ footer.

And about 25 other possibilities with coasters alone. Then the dozens of non-coaster posibilities......

Don't you love how some people are 100% the name is maverick and are calling it that already? ;)


Real Cbuzz quote of the day - "The classes i take in collage are so mor adcanced then u could imagen. Dont talk about my emglihs" - Adamforce
The point was that the footers that have been photographed do not need extreme curing times. Millennium Force's lift footings were not completely cured when they built the hill. But by the time they finished the hill they were cured to a point where they could support the weight above them. Dragster's footings were done at the most appropriate time for their planning. You don't want the park in there with heavy machinery during the operating season. That gave them the opportunity to get a jump on the construction when they went to weekend operations at the end of the year. If they have a lot of construction to do in that area, it would make sense to do as much of the ground work now as possible, so that you can get an early start at the end of the year.
I think the problem that I'm having is that most of the people who think a 500 footer *could* be coming are the people who would actually want to see it happen.

And the people saying it won't happen want it? What is wrong with wanting a large coaster? And although it really does not matter, why is that a problem for you? That is actually quite amusing.

If the ride has loops (which are long overdue) then Maverick would not need to break 500, but it could. If the ride has no loops, then it would almost certainly have to regain the height record.

I think there will be loops. The footers look B&Mish to me. However, I don't think they look like woodie footers at all so I tend to agree with your comment.

And again the masses scream "WHY? WHY? WHY? WHY?"

You and a few other jaded enthusiasts that don't feel the thrill of height any more are now "the masses"? That is even more amusing.

I won't say that this is going to be 500 feet, but I will say that this is probably a coaster. (I think a B&M...probably a flyer) The other possibilites that are not coasters are too remote to seriously consider in my opinion.

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RavenTTD said:


And the people saying it won't happen want it? What is wrong with wanting a large coaster? And although it really does not matter, why is that a problem for you? That is actually quite amusing.


There's nothing wrong with wanting a large coaster.

Then again, I wish every park within a 2 hours drive of me could get a nice new Gravity Group woodie next season, but I just don't see it happening.

This is all starting to scarily resemble BATWINGSFA's constant harping about SFA's next mega coaster.


RavenTTD said:


You and a few other jaded enthusiasts that don't feel the thrill of height any more are now "the masses"? That is even more amusing.


You're misreading me here. The poster I was referring to pretty much concluded that if the coaster doesn't have loops, it *must* break the height record, which I mean....seriously. How can this not drop your jaw?

I'm not saying why why why why break the height record, I'm saying why why why why are loops or the height record the only possibility? What is the justification? Why in the WORLD does this whole thing come down to loops, or no loops, as he was implying? At this point we don't even know if it's a coasters, two coasters, a coaster and a water ride, a completely new themed area, or....you know. I don't know what. A new marina for all I know.

Wanting a 500 footer is fine and all if that's your thing, but there's handful of people (a very small handful of people) not including yourself RavenTTD who are letting what they *want* to happen somehow get in the way of what's realistic. *** Edited 3/19/2006 12:13:11 AM UTC by matt.***

You want proof that it's not going to be a 500 footer? How about they spent 25 million for a 400 (well 420) footer what, 3 years ago? Not to mention the advertising costs, maintenance costs, PR hits due to said 25 million dollar ride ...

... and it ALREADY is not considered a "star power" enough of an attraction to make the cut for hotel guests this year. What are the two coasters that remain? A 15 year old small looper, and a 6 year old hypercoaster on crack ... that says a lot. If you've already seen the lovely staying power and star power of a 400 footer, what makes you want a 500 footer at the same or more investment?

proof: OnPoint! entry for March 10th ...

(plain text only in Firefox apparently?)


Brett, Resident Launch Whore Anti-Enthusiast (the undiplomatic one)
Going on the past coasters. I'm looking for a longer ride this time around, Top Thrill D, and Wicked T were on the short side. I'm not looking for a speed record here, because you almost need a launch to do that for example, Top Thrill D, Double K (KK), or S-man(Superman), last 2 coasters were a launch so I'll doubt another. Were prob looking at inversions this time, last 3 coasters had 0 inverts.
Loops prob eliminate wood coasters then.
Might have 4 seats across, since last 3 coasters had 2 across. Just a hypothesis. ;)

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