Cedar Point posts video tease for Rougarou, the floorless coaster formerly known as Mantis

Does this mean it goes back to a three train operational coaster? Also will they take the trim brake off the first drop or just not use it? I happen to love floorless coasters, so its a win-win in my book.

koolcat1101 said:

Ruh Roh...

no new coaster though.

Zoinks!

I think PerrysburgGuy beat you to it, son...

I think Gator beat you all by a good 6 weeks:

http://coasterbuzz.com/Forums/Topic/new-ss-4d-free-spin-coming-to-u...015#911056

To the point about switching the Vortexes (Vortices?) to floorlesses, that would be nice. The California one actually had a nifty little layout. Maybe it would bestow upon us the first good mini-floorless, seeing as the one up in Massachusetts kind of dropped the ball there. ;)

Wait, though: are the Vortexes properly heartlined for floorless trains? ;)

"A rumor lurking in the lagoon" see, its been there right next to the green train all these years.

I can't believe we've gone this far without the most important question: New credit?!?!? ;)

Awesome! Believe me or not, but this transformation was my doing. I planted the seed in 2001.

I'll go with new credit.

No. No. No. No. No. Noooooooooooooo!

I can't believe they didn't go with the new restraints. (deep sigh) And did they announce how much it'll cost them?

How are we so sure that the new restraints are not going to be used? The video might just be fibbing.

I'll be going with no new credit. I've already rode the ride. I wouldn't count the coasters in japan that run both sit and stand trains as two so I personally won't be counting this.

I'm voting new credit, just because my track record needs all the help it can get.

A thought about the restraints: I believe the vest-style restraints require more spacing between the seats, so the cars are wider than those with the traditional restraints. Now, I'm not sure if that requires an increased track gauge, but if it does then there's your answer.

I'll go with new credit. I think it's "a new ride experience" enough to warrant a new credit.

That's a good point, Chris, and if it doesn't require a wider track, it might at least require a completely redesigned train, one that's overall wider. Which means then the station would no longer be standard, the moving floor would be different, etc, etc. And these seem like required altwrations neither company would be likely to invest in for a simple, cost efficient conversion.

And that's a shame. For me, the bad thing about Mantis was the ear boxing and I'm not sure it's poised to go away with the way this remodel turned out. I was one who was hoping the new restraints would appear.

And I think I'm gonna count it.

So I guess this means that Cedar Point is not squashing Mantis into the terrain coaster it has desperately lacked for all these years?

Perhaps that's because Cedar Point lacks terrain. The total elevation change from the lake level is probably six or seven feet at best.

Cedar Point desperately needs a terrain coaster like The Beast!!! LOL

Once Magnum sinks far enough, they'll have it.

When I think about CP's lineup, it doesn't strike me that they "tremendously lack" anything. By my count, they have eight terrific coasters that all provide a unique experience and are fun and re-rideable (and a handful of mid-level ones that aren't too shabby). To look at that lineup and think, "Boy, I really wish they had ______" is greedy as hell.

Granted I don't post here much, but I thought the humor was more obvious than that. Not saying it was clever, just obvious.