Cedar Point announces that Mantis will be "squashed"

Considering Led Zeppelin is still "touring" after 5 years of sitting idle (RCDB now says removed, but Duane's either not got the details or the permission to divulge them)...

...and the "Last Stand" (Achilles Last Stand?) wordsmithing....

It isn't going anywhere. CP just Can't Quit You Baby....

Thankful it isn't Going To California....and hopefully we'll get Good Times (from) Bad Times.

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Thank God! I could barely walk after riding that coaster.

Who thinks Skyrider or Mantis is going to Michigan's Adventure?

So, I figured it all out. Mantis and Hydra's trains are being swapped. Both parks get "new" coasters for very little cost.
(/sarcasm)

^ You would get decapitated when you come out of the station if that were the case.

"squashed" is a funny term if they are going floorless.

And that jojo roll in Mantis' train would be... Oh I don't even want to think about it.

And they shoulda said "squished". Cause that's what we do with bugs over here in Ohiya. Squish 'em.

Mayfly the ride?

Does everyone get to throw Squash's at Mantis? :)

My guess is the ride isn't going anywhere. Might have to redeck the station to put riders at proper ride height for floor-less trains. Think about it, It really don't matter where the seat is as long as its in their Heart-line position and you can get into it. So what if your sitting two feet higher than the normal floor-less?

It would be odd they would do that test coat of paint on it if it was going anywhere.

I have no idea what to think.

I am hoping for a pretty major overhaul... maybe adding an inversion and deleting the lift hill in favor of a launch. No idea how the physics would work out!

Anything they do will be better than status quo.

I think the layout is actually pretty fantastic. I don't see the point in changing anything other than the trains.

I'm casting my prediction now: 3-bench PTCs.

I actually was wondering if a conversion would work because of the different centers of gravity...I can't imagine it would be that different. I heard (maybe here) that they started painting it different colors, so a conversion would make sense rather than a full-on tear down.

You all may get to see the head-spinning pea soup vomiting I promised earlier if that damn ride comes to Dorney as I have a feeling it will. I'm always glad to have a new (to the park) ride, so in a sense, it is welcome, but...

Of course, I can't figure out where they'd put it. Dinos? Remove Stinger? I still don't think there would be enough room. And Dorney really needs some good wood rather than an unpopular headbanger to replace an unpopular headbanger. The park is in such a competitive area, and I don't think Mantis will give them that edge in the eastern market. They need a game changer over here!

How much change would be required to the super structure of the station to fit in the floorless hardware?

I can't imagine the station design is too much effort, seeing as how Sheikra has already gone floorless.

They're renaming Mantis to King James. Then, in a three-park deal, they're sending Gatekeeper and Shoot the Rapids to Valleyfair in exchange for Excalibur, and sending the coaster planned for 2016 to Dorney, which will send Stinger to Valleyfair in a maintenance dump.

In another Cavaliers tie-in, the front of the line passes will now be referred to as Whine or Gold.

0g said:

I can't imagine the station design is too much effort, seeing as how Sheikra has already gone floorless.

Sheikra was built with the future conversion in mind

If you really, really wanted to convert it to sit down and the heart line really was that much of an issue (I'm not sold on either of these), there's no reason you couldn't elevate the seats a foot or two above normal sit down/floorless trains. Sheikra's trains have at least 2 levels of seating.

Regarding the heartline, I think, (but I'm not an engineer) that very little, if any, of the first half would have to be changed. The loops and dive roll are probably fine the way they are. The 2nd half is where all of the snap transitions are.

My prediction is they keep the first half relatively the same, and completely tear out and re-do the 2nd half.

To tear down an entire B+M and rebuild a new coaster by May of 2015 is most likely too much to ask. Yes, even for B+M.

Four cars forward, four cars backward. Let's do this.