Cedar Point announces record breaking dive roller coaster, Valravn

Posted Wednesday, September 9, 2015 9:27 AM | Contributed by Jeff

From the press release:

Cedar Point will change the Lake Erie skyline once again with over 3,400 feet of thrill ride innovation when it introduces Valravn (val-rey-vuhn), the world’s tallest, fastest and longest dive coaster, in 2016. Valravn is the regal king of birds, swooping in to conquer all other dive coasters on the planet with its powerful and intense maneuvers, massive structure and immense ride vehicles. Valravn will become the 18th coaster to take reign at The Roller Coaster Capital of the World® and will claim its rightful place among other record-breaking roller coasters at Cedar Point.

Riders on Valravn are carried more than 20 stories up to the top of the coaster’s 223-foot-tall first hill. Once there, the train is held perilously over the edge of the first drop for approximately four seconds, giving anxious guests unparalleled views of the park before free-falling a record 214 feet at a completely vertical, 90-degree angle, reaching a top speed of 75 mph!

Valravn then flips its passengers upside-down through a 165-foot-tall Immelmann, a fighter jet-like maneuver that takes the train into a half loop, then a half roll before traveling in the opposite direction. The train then approaches another drop zone – but there’s no stopping this time as riders plunge 125 feet down at a near-90-degree angle once again, twisting and turning upside-down two more times, once through a dive loop and then through a 270-degree roll before completing its epic journey over 3,415 feet of tarnished copper and silver steel track.

Valravn will shatter an astonishing 10 WORLD RECORDS when it debuts next summer, including:

1.Tallest dive coaster (223 feet)

2.Fastest dive coaster (75 mph)

3.Longest dive coaster (3,415 feet)

4.Most inversions on a dive coaster (three)

5.Longest drop on a dive coaster (214 feet)

6.Highest inversion on a dive coaster (165 feet)

7.Most roller coasters taller than 200 feet at one amusement park (5)

8.Most rides at one amusement park (72)

9.Most steel roller coaster track at one amusement park (52,125 feet/9.9 miles)

10.Most roller coaster track at one amusement park (60,110 feet/11.4 miles)

Valravn is also the signature 100th roller coaster designed by the imaginative coaster minds at Bolliger & Mabillard in Monthey, Switzerland, and will feature ride vehicles never before seen on a dive coaster. Riders will sit eight-across on one of three, 24-passenger floorless trains, featuring tiered seating as well as comfortable over-the-shoulder restraints with interlocking seatbelts, much like those on the park’s GateKeeper wing coaster. Valravn can accommodate approximately 1,200 riders per hour and guests must be 54 inches or taller to ride.

Cedar Point is also making history as the first amusement park ever to utilize 3D virtual reality to introduce a new roller coaster. Guests can experience Valravn in 360-degree virtual reality by downloading the Cedar Point VR app onto their smart phones and inserting them into the Valravn VR Viewer. The app is now available in the App Store and Google Play store. To take full advantage of the virtual reality simulation, Valravn VR Viewers can be purchased by visiting cedarpoint.com/Valravn.

“The introduction of Valravn is a first for the amusement park industry on many fronts, including the exciting virtual reality experience,” stated Jason McClure, vice president and general manager of Cedar Point. “For the first time ever, guests are able to take an immersive ride on Valravn before it opens next summer – and the actual experience will be unmatched with the tallest lift hill, fastest speed, longest track and most inversions on a dive coaster, right here at Cedar Point, The Roller Coaster Capital of the World.”

See the official site from Cedar Point.

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Thursday, September 10, 2015 11:51 PM

I'd like Texas a whole lot better if only it weren't so full of those damn Texans.

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Friday, September 11, 2015 1:27 AM
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What Lord Gonchar said,

One of the things I love about Coasterbuzz is that many of the people here "get" my view of this hobby and that common sensibility leads to interesting conversations. (And interesting digressions, as well.)

Lord Gonchar said:

...the patch wearing, pontificating, pulling out their membership card in line to correct a conversation they've been eavesdropping on...

I'm a card carrying member of ACE, and an active volunteer as well, but these kind of folks are folks I avoid.


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Friday, September 11, 2015 7:07 AM
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Pete said:

And the point that most of their customers will eat this up and find it one of the most fun rides in the park is exactly why CP is building this ride. They could not care less if you like it or think it looks like the other ones.

People keep saying this like those of us that are underwhelmed are saying something that would be considered the opposite.

I know that. I've said as much. But that's not the point. My point is that regardless, on THIS particular forum, we discuss coasters and opinions. It is MY opinion that, as I've stated, while I'm sure the ride will be successful and popular, it's not that exciting *to me*.

I never said that it wasn't a good decision for the park, which is what keeps getting pointed out (that it in fact is a good decision). I personally don't care about the tide that much.


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Friday, September 11, 2015 8:45 AM
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And as is the case with most places on the Internets, people are here to tell you why your opinion sucks. :)


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Friday, September 11, 2015 8:48 AM

I don't care one way or the other, i have ridden the other dive coasters and thought they were both ok rides at best. I for one was hoping for something unique from cp, which makes me think what was the last coaster cp added that wasn't built by B&M or intamin? Atleast SF adds different coasters built by other manufacturers.


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Friday, September 11, 2015 8:49 AM
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But I don't care what people think about my opinion. What is annoying is the continued implication that people that don't care for the ride are also saying this is a bad decision for the park, when that hasn't been going on.

Besides, its no Seven Dwarves (Rolls Eyes)...


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Friday, September 11, 2015 8:51 AM
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DS said:

My only gripe is ...with B&M. It just seems to me that they have lost the magic I used to get excited about. It just seems like the same coasters over and over and I want to see some innovation.

RyTroup said:

I feel like it is being added to just to add a coaster with no real intent.

bjames said:

Cedar Point has and can do better than this.

It was in response to these and the like.

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Friday, September 11, 2015 8:54 AM
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It's my opinion that CP can do better. That doesn't mean I think that it was a bad business decision.

Edit: But neither of them are saying "OMG, Cedar Point made a stupid business decision and they're going to close down!"

I agree with both statements. It, to me, feels like a cap ex that was put out there with a meh coaster that they know is reliable and people will love, without much creativity. On the heels of Maverick and Gatekeeper, this seems devoid of any creativity.

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Friday, September 11, 2015 8:57 AM
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gamerguy said:

Atleast SF adds different coasters built by other manufacturers.

I think you'll be waiting a long time for new Intamin rides at Cedar Fair parks.


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Friday, September 11, 2015 8:59 AM
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Lord Gonchar said:

2. I think we need an official panel of CoasterBuzz elders that are held in high regard and share the wisdom of the ages with the tribe using our ancient coaster spirituality.

And I want a nice outfit to go with the position.

Ditto. I prefer a tribal outfit that doesn't cover my genitals or man boobs. I'd look more official. A banana is also a must.

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Friday, September 11, 2015 9:21 AM
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I'll settle for a satin jacket.


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Friday, September 11, 2015 9:45 AM

And if you head over to PointBuzz you'll find page after page of fans who think Cedar Point should be building things just for them. That site skews to the younger set, and I sense many of them have never been further than Sandusky for rides, but they are probably the second most entitled, short-sighted fans in the world. (Disney fans being number one, of course...)

And that's the thing that gets annoying. I quit going to most enthusiast events a long time ago simply because I got sick of the crowd. I understand completely why there are those of us who prefer to remain on the fringe, as the number one rule of life is to eliminate the things that piss you off. I've found it's entirely possible to enjoy my hobby without all that, my track record speaks for itself, and I've learned to choose my companions carefully.
I also agree with our Tek that we're all entitled to our opinion, and Rob Ascough makes valid points as well. Experts and enthusiasts can be counted on to put a critical eye toward any new project, and that's a healthy thing at least for discussion's sake. Every single hobby out there, and I'd go so far as to say particularly those with primarily male participants, has those that seem to own the activity a little more than they should. Add the anonymity of the Internet to that and well, there ya go.

Do I see Cedar Point's latest addition as the best thing they've ever done? Or that they might've done? No. Do I have the greatest dive coaster layout in my head? Ok, sure. I'm on the record as being excited about the project, though, and especially after talking to my good friend in St. Louis who will be looking at a Larson Fireball in 2016. It's all quite relative, ain't it?

And I'm going to need two bananas.

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Friday, September 11, 2015 9:46 AM

Jeff said:

gamerguy said:

Atleast SF adds different coasters built by other manufacturers.

I think you'll be waiting a long time for new Intamin rides at Cedar Fair parks.

Thats not my point, im talking about, premier, s&s, RMC and others that can provide a different coaster experience. To me theres not much difference in a wing coaster and a dive coaster which are cp's last 2 additions as opposed to sfmm that added twisted colossus and full throttle as their last two coasters.

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Friday, September 11, 2015 10:08 AM
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Most B&M's in a park...

Five - Six Flags Great Adventure

Four - Carowinds, Six Flags Great America, Six Flags Magic Mountain, Six Flags Over Georgia and Cedar Point


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Friday, September 11, 2015 10:12 AM
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In addition to those *other* companies listed above, the U.S. has been fairly lacking in quality Mack products (to borrow from Chris Hardwick..."points" for BGT and USH). S&S is also diversifying its portfolio...GaleForce looks pretty sweet.

The choice isn't limited to just B&M or Intamin...


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Friday, September 11, 2015 11:18 AM
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gamerguy said:
Thats not my point, im talking about, premier, s&s, RMC and others that can provide a different coaster experience. To me theres not much difference in a wing coaster and a dive coaster which are cp's last 2 additions as opposed to sfmm that added twisted colossus and full throttle as their last two coasters.

And while I haven't been on either one of those, I don't imagine those are different enough from other things I've been on to be different-er. Yeah, I totally get that the hardest of hardcore enthusiasts find enormous differences in the rides, but most guests don't. As I said before, frankly I don't. You can put me on Flight of Fear, Wicked Twister, Rock-n-Rollercoaster and Thunderbird, and I find that initial sensation to essentially be the same.


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Friday, September 11, 2015 11:36 AM
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I think it all comes down to do things; 1) having an established working relationship with a developer (B & M), and 2) said company provides what they are looking for.

Out of sheer curiosity, how does the process start (typically)? What I mean is, do companies like Mack, B & M, etc., approach Cedar Point and say..."look what we could do for you?", or does Cedar Point approach the companies saying "we need this..".

Or both?

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Friday, September 11, 2015 11:43 AM
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gamerguy said:

Atleast SF adds different coasters built by other manufacturers.

If you know who manufacturers a ride, you're not really in the key market for a park, you're way beyond that.

Also, if a manufacturer that you like (in terms of value for money, maintenance, uptime, availability of parts etc) - why shift too far way from that? With any inventory of hardware, no matter what it is, it almost always makes sense to reduce the variety in your stock.


Nothing to see here. Move along.

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Friday, September 11, 2015 11:57 AM

So somebody 'splain to me how "the park can do better" or "I expect more" is much different than "we deserve better" or any of the asinine comments that we rag Timber Rider for spilling out that reek of a complete lack of understanding of business and economic principles. Isn't it entirely possible that, from a business, standpoint, with the budget they were given, that this was the best they could put together?


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Friday, September 11, 2015 11:57 AM

Um, Jeff? Your card, please.
:-)

I agree about that to an extent. We've all heard comments from friends and overheard enough park visitors to know that most folks don't know the difference between manufacturers, or even basic styles of rides. I've already been questioned about my impressions of Valravn, and most of my friends think its the most unique, scariest looking thing going. They will never know, until I tell them, that there's others like it and B&M, for a variety of reasons, are the go-to guys these days. Then they will promptly forget.

Those of us in the culture, though, are quite capable of recognizing these differences. And there are a few coaster whisperers who know and can tell the differences between, say, an Intamin, Premier, or B&M launch and make the appropriate recommendations. Or at least fill their wish lists. I think if most of us had our way we'd find parks as museums, with examples of rides from each and every producer out there, not necessarily considering cost, availability, working relationships, and stuff like that.

As for Mack, I've always heard cost may be the prohibitive factor there. Their Bobsled, the superior product as far as I'm concerned, has made only one appearance in the U.S. and Intamin got all the rest. An old story is that Kings Island looked into the Mack ride to go back by The Beast somewhere, but determined after the installation at KD that it was too expensive. Anyway, do we have a lot of Mack rides here? Offhand, I think not.

I wonder if the German enthusiasts gripe and moan because most of what they get at Europa are those tiresome, lameass Mack rides?

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