Canceled Coasters - CoasterBuzz

Yeah my friends from SanFran brought me a PGA brochure the year before "Hypersonic" was supposed to open.

On the map it said, "Look here for an exciting new attraction in 2000!" The arrow pointed to the area where the skycoaster is.

I look one year later and they've got a wild mouse up by Drop Zone?! I thought that was a little suspicious. Glad I know the truth now.

Intamin woodies for SFMM & SFGAd were cancelled. An extreme disappointment for me because they went with looping coasters instead of airtime machines. At least SFGAd is smart enough to have an airtime hyper (Nitro). Another cancelled project was a big racing woodie for Premodonna (sp?) near Buffalo Bills. Seems like it was very popular to cancel big woodies lately and build boring flyers and loopers instead.
*** This post was edited by Pink Floyd Fanatic 10/11/2003 6:16:54 PM ***

rollergator said:
Pretty much certain at this point that the wooden coaster listed for SFAW ended up as *my* Cheetah!

That could very well be true Bill, although SFAW did have plans for a out-n-back woodie to open in 1999, but decided against it for various reasons.

One being the company that was supposedly building it had never designed a wooden coaster before. Another supposed reason was they weren't totally sold on the "key element" that would be the marketing standpoint behind the ride, yet, that same element appeared in 2000 on another wooden coaster.

....as the story goes. Take that for what it's worth.

-Sean

Pink Floyd Fanatic said:
Intamin woodies for SFMM & SFGAd were cancelled.

Those were never announced or confirmed in any way, shape, or form, so I have trouble believing they were cancelled. Little more than rumor and fodder for message boards.

You're loopy Sean. ;)

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coasterdude318 said:
Finally, SFGAm was not necessarily going to get a Mr. Freeze clone, but just a Premier shuttle coaster. My guess is that it would have been more like Chiller to increase capacity, but was cancelled because of all the difficulties with the other Premier rides.

How, exactly, does Chiller have better capacity than Freeze?

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If running both sides Chiller would very well have a better capacity then freeze, even with Freeze's dual stations.

You can launch either side whenever instead of waiting for your turn.

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As far as I can tell, it shouldn't have better capacity -- at least, as judged by loading capabilities. I'm not sure of their ride times.

Still, Mr. Freeze has two trains per circuit. Comparably, Batman & Robin: The Chiller also has two -- albeit on different circuits. The net result is the same though.

All of that said, it's nice to see a *unique* coaster end up in a Six Flags park now and again -- even if it's not for the best of reasons.

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But on freeze you HAVE to wait for one train to clear to launch the next. There is no such delay on Chiller.

You may be able to launch 3 trains on Chiller in the same amuont of time you coudl launch 2 on Freeze.

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If I was part of a coaster, I would be an upstop pad on an Arrow Mine Train.
MAGNUM HAD MY BABY!

I suppose that, theoretically, Chiller has twice the capacity of Mr. Freeze -- given that there can be twice as many people on the ride at a time -- but seeing how Chiller is run, it's obvious that this only happens in theory.

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Sean Flaharty said:
One being the company that was supposedly building it had never designed a wooden coaster before.

I had thought that CCI was supposed to build SFAW's wooden coaster, and the ride was cancelled because of SF's displeasure with CCI?

Not sure if that was true or just a load of b.s., though...

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*** This post was edited by Rob Ascough 10/13/2003 9:45:10 AM ***

I thought the same thing.

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ApolloAndy said: How, exactly, does Chiller have better capacity than Freeze?

Because it can have shorter dispatch intervals. Chiller can dispatch as soon as it is loaded, while you cannot dispatch Freeze until the other train has returned and the transfer table has been moved over. Don't believe me? Premier lists the theoretical capacity of both rides on their site. Freeze's theoretical capacity is 1200 while Chiller is listed at 1600.

Why else do you think GAdv got Chiller instead of a Freeze clone?

-Nate
*** This post was edited by coasterdude318 10/13/2003 2:33:45 PM ***

There were 2 coasters that SFAW did not get. One of them was the one Sean was speaking of and the other was a CCI that was advertised at one of the IAAPA's and was eventually built elsewhere...

Vampire, racing wooden coaster for WOF. I still have the copyright thingie that WOF had for the name.

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They copyrighted the name? I wonder why, since Kentucky Kingdom, which isn't THAT far away, had a Boomerang called the Vampire! How long ago was this... pre-Timber Wolf, or recently?

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Kentucky Kingdom is 8 hours (500+ miles away). I don't hink naming it Vampire would have caused any confusion.
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But I don't understand why the would copyright a name when it was already in use elsewhere.

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coasterdude318 said:
Why else do you think GAdv got Chiller instead of a Freeze clone?
-Nate
*** This post was edited by coasterdude318 10/13/2003 2:33:45 PM ***

Because they thought opening 3 in the same year would be a bit excessive? Because they didn't want to give GAdv a clone? Because GAdv didn't want a Freeze clone?

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I would guess that capacity issues played a part in that decision. SFGAdv gets more traffic than SFOT and SFStL.

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