Brief Cedar Fair and MA rant.

Thursday, March 15, 2012 8:27 PM

Sorry Timber Rider! It's not Timber Liner, I got that :D

Ok, if they built it up in the field between Shivering Timbers and Thunderhawk, they would have to build a path. That ends the problem of the fun rides being too far apart from each other. They could put Disaster Transport there! Seriously though, why can't we get a drop ride? It's not like I'm asking for the 500 ft 12-inversion 170 mph roller coaster.

Last edited by mourningglorie, Thursday, March 15, 2012 8:28 PM
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Friday, March 16, 2012 12:40 PM

^ Agreed. I think a drop ride is definately in order for MA's next ride. I would even be happy with some dinosaurs and a Windseeker.

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Saturday, March 17, 2012 8:17 AM

Demon Drop would have done a wonderful job filling the drop ride void at MA. I'm sure its placement came down to number crunching, but I still question the move, considering there was already a drop ride at Dorney.

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Saturday, March 17, 2012 8:34 AM

I could see MiA's next coaster being a hand me down from Canada's Wonderland.

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Saturday, March 17, 2012 8:55 AM

I guess the only issue with too much ride recycling is...at what point does the park have a collection of dated, substandard rides?

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Sunday, March 18, 2012 3:39 AM

Maverick00 said:
I could see MiA's next coaster being a hand me down from Canada's Wonderland.

Behemoth? :D

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Friday, March 23, 2012 9:03 PM

Seriously though, I looked up the line up @ Canada's Wonderland.... what would they take out of there to put at MA?

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Friday, March 23, 2012 10:55 PM

mourningglorie said:


Maverick00 said:
I could see MiA's next coaster being a hand me down from Canada's Wonderland.

Behemoth? :D

We can only wish :)

mourningglorie said:

Seriously though, I looked up the line up @ Canada's Wonderland.... what would they take out of there to put at MA?

I could see MiA getting the Bat or maybe Time Warp, those are the only ones that I think could afford to leave CW and fit good in MiA.

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Saturday, March 24, 2012 1:38 AM

Why can't a big park have a great mega ride (with a mega "light" price tag) like Hades?

Mt. Olympus has let the ride go to crap, kinda sorta, and with horrible operations and one short train.... I just figured if that was at someplace like Cedar Point or Magic Mountain. I think it would be a huge hit. I think it's much cheaper than the stuff either of those parks have put in, and would most likely be light years more popular (with 3 trains, too).

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Saturday, March 24, 2012 11:31 AM

Time Warp would be awesome, but are they going to take a flying coaster out? I think The Bat would be more likely, and MA should have a boomerang, because it is a smaller park, and it could handle the low capacity pretty well.

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Saturday, March 24, 2012 12:05 PM

The Bat is super popular at CW though (as are most of the coasters). Most likely, I'd probably lean towards Time Warp... but realistically, I don't see anything leaving the park unless it's being scrapped/replaced.

Actually, now that I think about it... maybe the "Stunt Coaster"? Since they don't run/update any themeing, or even the mid break section anymore.

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Sunday, March 25, 2012 8:22 AM

Michigan's Adventure is taking out the Falling Star. No announcement on a replacement, though.

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Sunday, March 25, 2012 9:16 AM

Way to go, man. Now you've unleashed the fury.

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Sunday, March 25, 2012 12:11 PM

Are they really taking that out? Why would they do that? It's not one of my fav rides but I know a lot of people that like it.... ***SIGH*** I wonder what Timber Rider's thoughts are on this news...

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Monday, March 26, 2012 12:46 AM

I think that particular ride is a maintenance problem. Holidayworld took theirs out years ago, and the Indiana Beach version is probably still in pieces.

It really is a great ride! It was one of the highlights of my time at MAdventure last summer. Can you say heatstroke? Or sunstroke...

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Thursday, March 29, 2012 1:35 AM

My...aren't I the popular one.

A lot of you make valid points, and I am glad that someone agrees with me. I don't care if you want to make fun of me. I do have a sense of humor, and all your name calling and jokes just make me smile. So, if you think you are insulting me in any way..in the words of little richard.. Shut up! LOL!!

Some points I made that people apparently didn't get. I mentioned $2.00 increases in park admission. It's not just park admission everything in the park has gone up in price. Admission has gone up from $26.00 to $28.00. Parking from $8.00 to $10.00 locker rental from $10.00 to $12.00 and so on. The only thing I noticed that did come down is the price on Smoothies...from $9.00 down to $7.00 probably because nobody wants to pay $10.00 for a cup of ice cream! Almost every other item price in the park has increased.

As for park guests, someone mentioned that the park gets most of it's business from GR. is not true. As I mentioned, via info VIA the Cedar Fair website the park has a potential to bring in 5 millon guests a year. That does not include people coming from Detroit and Chicago, which could easily double that number. Grand Rapids has a surrounding metro area of 1 million by iteself. So, to say that they don't have the numbers to justify a major attraction is balony.

Look at Indiana Beach, they are pretty much in the middle of nowhere, and for a while they were kicking MAs ass on adding new rides to their park, while not bringing in a fraction of the huge amounts of cash MA makes. The fact that they have no major competition, you would think that they would be eager to expand. Yet they do nothing but rake in cash to support their other parks.

And for your info, all the Michigan haters. Cedar fair planned to build a park in Michigan long before they purchased Michigan's Adventure. In fact, they had plans in the works to buy a huge chunk of land just south of GR to build a Cedar Point replica, until the local media blabbed the story, and then man who was selling them the land raised the price by 3 million dollars, and the plan was scrapped. Also Six Flags planned to build a park here, and was also one of the companies interested in buying Michigan's Adventure, and the Jourden's decided to sell to Cedar fair seeing them as more reliable than Six Flags. There is also a rumor that Six Flags wants to build a park near Grayling, which is even more remote than Muskegon. So, you are all quite wrong.

As for Fast Pass being their only new feature. I'm curious as to how many of you have actually been to the park, and think it's just a huge waste of effort? I mean really, you tell me? If you went to the park, which ride would you justify skipping the line to pay for it? I think there are only 3 rides in the park that have over an hour wait, and I wouldn't waste my money on buying an extra pass, when most of the other rides have no wait at all. The longest I have waited for Timbers is 45 minutes, an hour for Thunderhawk, but it was very busy that day, and is not the norm. Most days you can get on any ride in under 20 minutes.

Also, when I talk about expansion I don't mean they have to add a new roller coaster. What they need is more thrill rides. Not coasters. And, they can skip the stupid Dinosaur thing. What it costs for one of those things, they could get a decent Topspin, or something of that nature. I think they made a huge mistake auctioning off the rides at Geauga Lake, I'm sure they would have found a happy home at MA. The people here sure love the Thunderhawk. Unlike the people on this board, we do care about our park.

Let your favorite home park get neglected with only 3 good new rides in 12 years, and see how excited you are about it.

Somewhat related to the price arguement. There was an article on the news that a baseball stadium has begun charging $25.00 for a hot dog meal. That is a single hot dog, fries, and a soda. You can bet that it won't be long before the parks start charging the same, then what are you going to say? Is it still going to be fair to you when you are paying $100.00 to get into the parks, $50.00 for a single meal? When is enough going to be enough? That's why I complain, and more people should.

Just like Gas being up to $4.09 a gallon. because the people who could be doing something about it don't do anything other than rake in the dough, and the people who could put a stop to that, just let it happen. It's a sad world we live in these days. Nobody seems to care. I do.

Last edited by Timber-Rider, Thursday, March 29, 2012 1:50 AM
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Thursday, March 29, 2012 2:05 AM

A comment about the Falling Star. I am not one bit sad to see that ride go. It's boring, and they don't run it well. 4 spins this way, 4 thay way and done. If you go to the park, it is probably the only ride in the park that never has a line, even when the park is busy. The only other ride in the park that sees less riders than the falling star is the Trabant. Which is why I repeatedly claim that they need to add more thrill rides. If you take out those two, what's left? A tilt-a-whirl, scrambler, swinging ship and thunderbolt. The rest are all kiddie rides. Which is why I have mentioned their need for better thrill rides. Not Coasters.

The one at Indiana beach was lots of fun, because the people there know how to run their rides, and make them exciting, and not tame them down for the 5 year olds. Indiana Beach had one of the best hymalayas I have ever been on. Would love to see one of those at MA, the thunderbolt sucks. They run it too slow, and the ride cycle is too short. But, knowing Cedar Fair, if they did get a hymalaya they would find a way to make it lame, like the rest of the carni rides in the park.

As for rides coming to MA from Canada's Wonderland, screw the coasters! give us the Sledgehammer ride! Shockwave or the Wild Nightmare ride. They have some great flat rides there, and I would glady go for those over any of the coasters mentioned. I heard that the time warp coaster is pretty much crap. Why would we want that? I would rather have the Bat. But, at MA. it would probably end up having the longest line in the park, considering that the park's other one train coaster does have lines surpassing a 2 hour wait. Not worth it.

Last edited by Timber-Rider, Thursday, March 29, 2012 2:19 AM
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Thursday, March 29, 2012 9:21 AM

Claims the park never adds anything new....

Bitches about the possibility of adding anything new...

Hmm.

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Thursday, March 29, 2012 9:47 AM

Timber-Rider said:
Look at Indiana Beach, they are pretty much in the middle of nowhere, and for a while they were kicking MAs ass on adding new rides to their park, while not bringing in a fraction of the huge amounts of cash MA makes.

And they were sold to a new owner who closed the park early last year due to low attendance. Not exactly a winning formula to expand quickly. Ask Geauga Lake how that worked out for them.

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Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:31 AM

Timber-Rider said:
The fact that they have no major competition, you would think that they would be eager to expand.

No, I wouldn't. I would think exactly the opposite, actually.

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