Award System
This is probably pretty unreasonable so please forgive me. Do you think there is anything you could do to give more weight to some votes in the Coasters' Choice Awards? I see many posts on forums by people that have only been to a couple of parks (usually CP, PKI, SFWoA folks). I can't help but think of how incredibly biased the voting will be. Not that you'll hear me complaining if CP wins everything :), but I don't see some parks having much of a chance (e.g. how many people have ridden Kraken?). Like I said, I know it's probably not a reasonable suggestion, but if something could be worked out, I think it would be great. The only way I could see it being done is by track record, but people can fix that (you know, just add coasters all you want - even ones that aren't open yet :)). Anyway, I'm sure you could come up with better ideas than me (if any good ideas exist at all). By the way, thanks for the best site on the net. Keep up the good work!
My philosophy is that it is the "choice" of the "coasters." If there's a natural lean to one ride or another, then that's the choice.
I think you'll find that the nominees will fall largely in the same arena as other polls.
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Jeff
Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com
I think you'll find that the nominees will fall largely in the same arena as other polls.
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Jeff
Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com
This is a very good thread, something I've talked about as well (surprise!). I think we can all see what will happen, but hey, if that's how the people vote then so be it I guess.
But I have an idea. This might not even be feasible, but there could be more "stats" added to the poll results. People could be "rated" based solely upon number of coasters ridden and parks visited. I know this has a bad ring to it because it would resemble a ranking system, but the ratings would not have to be public. Then the percentages of votes from people with various ratings could be posted. For example, someone who votes for the Force who has been to three parks wouldn't mean much to me. But someone who votes for it who has a triple-digit track record would say a lot, because they chose it over lots of others. This wouldn't have to affect the poll results at all, but it would let us know coasters stack up compared to other coasters.
Yeah, this is confusing, but maybe someone will get something out of it...I can hope.
But I have an idea. This might not even be feasible, but there could be more "stats" added to the poll results. People could be "rated" based solely upon number of coasters ridden and parks visited. I know this has a bad ring to it because it would resemble a ranking system, but the ratings would not have to be public. Then the percentages of votes from people with various ratings could be posted. For example, someone who votes for the Force who has been to three parks wouldn't mean much to me. But someone who votes for it who has a triple-digit track record would say a lot, because they chose it over lots of others. This wouldn't have to affect the poll results at all, but it would let us know coasters stack up compared to other coasters.
Yeah, this is confusing, but maybe someone will get something out of it...I can hope.
I'm not sure which bothers more, the idea of rating Buzzers, or the idea of keeping the ratings secret. One person, one vote is good enough to elect the President of the United States; I think it's good enough to choose the favorite roller coasters of those who are on Coasterbuzz.
Whether a voter has been to three parks or a hundred parks, they're choosing their favorite coaster out of the ones thay have ridden, and they should enjoy a full vote on that basis.
Another thing: say someone has been to 36 parks, but some of them they haven't been to in 5 years. Do they get a full vote? What if someone with a triple digit track record was at Cedar Point on a day when Millenium Force was closed and they never got to ride? Does their ranking get taken down since they can't have a 'true' opinion of the best coaster? Do I get more votes if I've ridden MF or the Beast or Goliath more than 5 times, or more than 15 times, or more than 100 times?
One Buzzer. One vote. It's the American way.
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Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read.
--Groucho Marx
Whether a voter has been to three parks or a hundred parks, they're choosing their favorite coaster out of the ones thay have ridden, and they should enjoy a full vote on that basis.
Another thing: say someone has been to 36 parks, but some of them they haven't been to in 5 years. Do they get a full vote? What if someone with a triple digit track record was at Cedar Point on a day when Millenium Force was closed and they never got to ride? Does their ranking get taken down since they can't have a 'true' opinion of the best coaster? Do I get more votes if I've ridden MF or the Beast or Goliath more than 5 times, or more than 15 times, or more than 100 times?
One Buzzer. One vote. It's the American way.
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Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read.
--Groucho Marx
I don't think you understood my post. I apologize for the confusion, but I really think the info is all there. Did you read the entire post?
First of all, my post included the phrase "This wouldn't have to affect the poll results at all..." That's one vote for one buzzer. I'm talking about adding extra info here (and not revealing anyone's votes -- hence the "private" ratings), not altering the voting itself based on track record or number of rides or anything else. It's purpose would be to "let us know coasters stack up compared to other coasters. "
It seems that you thought my "system" would make some votes count more than others -- absolutely not true. This is just an idea to see what coasters people prefer over others, in a way that would not (hopefully) offend or bother anyone. As always, no offense taken or intended.
First of all, my post included the phrase "This wouldn't have to affect the poll results at all..." That's one vote for one buzzer. I'm talking about adding extra info here (and not revealing anyone's votes -- hence the "private" ratings), not altering the voting itself based on track record or number of rides or anything else. It's purpose would be to "let us know coasters stack up compared to other coasters. "
It seems that you thought my "system" would make some votes count more than others -- absolutely not true. This is just an idea to see what coasters people prefer over others, in a way that would not (hopefully) offend or bother anyone. As always, no offense taken or intended.
What's the point of your system if not to endow some people's votes with more "authority" than others? You seem to be saying, sure, one Buzzer, one vote, but hey, this guy over here has ridden 300+ coasters so his vote is more meaningful.
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Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read.
--Groucho Marx
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Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read.
--Groucho Marx
Once again, I am NOT talking about listing stats on individuals, but on coasters. For example, say 50% of people who rode over 100 rides chose a coaster over all others. On another, say 75% of the votes were from people who have ridden less than 100 coasters. That may be meaningless to most people, but I would get a lot out of it. So if you're talking about me personally, then yes, I do respect some opinions more than others. Not to say every opinion doesn't have an equal voice in the final vote tallies, but if I want to know how good a ride is I'm going to the guy who's ridden the most rides and thus can compare it to a wide range of top rides. It's the same as anything else -- if you want an informed opinion, you talk to the guy who knows the most about the subject, right? (If not, it'd be a good idea; you generally get better advice that way.) If we knew what groups the votes were coming from we'd know a little more about how that coaster compares with others.
For example, say there's some small ride someplace that doesn't get recognition or hype like the others, but 80% of its votes were from people with a significantly large track record. That means a lot to me; it says that the ride is very good and may deserve to be at the top regardless of the number of actual votes it gets. Now does it actually get listed there as a result of some votes having more influence on the system? Of course not, I explained that in my previous post.
But it would allow us to see where the votes are coming from, that's all. Kinda like dividing up the pres. vote count by state, I guess.
Would this actually have any meaning at all? Who knows, everyone could vote such that the stats are never high for any one group. But it would be interesting to see this implemented.
Hopefully that clears things up a bit...
For example, say there's some small ride someplace that doesn't get recognition or hype like the others, but 80% of its votes were from people with a significantly large track record. That means a lot to me; it says that the ride is very good and may deserve to be at the top regardless of the number of actual votes it gets. Now does it actually get listed there as a result of some votes having more influence on the system? Of course not, I explained that in my previous post.
But it would allow us to see where the votes are coming from, that's all. Kinda like dividing up the pres. vote count by state, I guess.
Would this actually have any meaning at all? Who knows, everyone could vote such that the stats are never high for any one group. But it would be interesting to see this implemented.
Hopefully that clears things up a bit...
People, be happy with the current voting formula. Originally it was going to be decided on a select few choices. This new system allows you to use the database on this site. This is a much better system which allows everyone to pick their personal favorite. With over 3000 members on this site anything can happen with the results. You might find some surprises , who knows?
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