Arrow Hypers or B&M Hypers?

Saturday, January 14, 2006 10:49 PM
Which do you prefer? Arrow's fast, fierce, speeds with ejector air or B&Ms fast yet gentle ride? I like arrow B&M hyper can beat Magnum, Steel Phantom or PM Big One.
Saturday, January 14, 2006 11:03 PM
B&M all the way. I don't like pain and bruises on my legs.

I'll take Nitro and/or Raging Bull over any Arrow... Hyper or not.

Saturday, January 14, 2006 11:10 PM
Articulated trains make all the difference. Both, however, need to make their drops steeper. Hypers should not be allowed to be less steep than at least 65 degrees (en mi opinion).
Saturday, January 14, 2006 11:26 PM
Bruises on your legs? Ive ridden Magnum and Phantom many times and never had bruises. Ejector air on Arrow is better than never leaving your seat on that finesse B&M hypers.
Saturday, January 14, 2006 11:46 PM
I generally like to return to the station concussion-free and with all body parts intact, so I'll have to say B&M.

*** Edited 1/15/2006 4:47:14 AM UTC by coasterdude318***

Saturday, January 14, 2006 11:53 PM
I dont understand why you think Arrow is painful. Ive ridden so many Arrows and never have experienced any "pain". Even Steel Phantom...I rode it many many times and never had a headache or neck problems like all the other pussies complained of. People just need to realize roller coasters are not meant to ride like a Lexus.
Saturday, January 14, 2006 11:57 PM
Perhaps you can't remember the moments you were knocked unconscious.


Sunday, January 15, 2006 12:00 AM
CoasterMNguy... La Ronde Goliath features a 70 degrees first drop. I guess that fix your drop steepness thing!
Sunday, January 15, 2006 12:04 AM
Hey Jeff, was starting this thread just an excuse to argue with those who like B&M hypers?
Sunday, January 15, 2006 12:13 AM
No, i just wanted to see the general consensus and get a good debate about them...I will voice my opinion and I want all of you to as well!
Sunday, January 15, 2006 12:16 AM
I'll take Arrow. i'll take Arrow over Morgan, too, with the possible exception of the Phantom. But that ride is just an all-around exception.

On any given Sunday evening, you might find me re-riding Magnum in the third row, so you see where my preferences are...!

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

Sunday, January 15, 2006 12:21 AM
I consider Phantom's Revenge to be Arrow too...after all, there would be no "Phantom" without Arrow...even tho Morgan redid the second half, its still an Arrow hyper to me b/c even if morgan didnt come in, we'd still have STEEL PHANTOM and thats all that matters...Go Arrow
Sunday, January 15, 2006 2:26 AM
I've never hit my head on a lapbar before.
Sunday, January 15, 2006 2:47 AM
I would take a ride on Nitro over Magnum any day. I like a coater that is fun and smooth. With Arrow you always had had "I've been in a car wreck" feeling. I love Magnum, (believe me I do) but Nitro is just a great, fun, awesome coaster. I'm not sure that I can't say that Apollo's Chariot or Raging Bull are better coasters, but I can say that they are a lot more enjoyable of a ride than Magnum. Lets face it when you ride an arrow you get thrown around and beat up a little bit, but B&M are and always will be much more enjoyable of a ride. I am sorry but my vote goes to Nitro not magnum or any other Arrow hyper.
Sunday, January 15, 2006 10:22 AM
B&M B&M B&M! When I rode Magnum this last summer at CP...Ejector Air was the LAST thing that I wanted. That little bar hurt so much with the Ejector air.

Raging Bull over Magnum anyday.

Sunday, January 15, 2006 10:37 AM
Sunday, January 15, 2006 10:38 AM
Hey thanks Absimilliard. I guess I just must of missed that.
Sunday, January 15, 2006 11:03 AM
Magnum 1989 was one of the greatest rides of my life. Magnum 1990+ a few years was great too.

Magnum 2005 vs. a good B&M - I'll take B&M

(Of course Intamin beats them all, as does Phantom, which is almost entirely non-arrow)

Sunday, January 15, 2006 12:53 PM
I really love'em both. I've had hundreds of rides on Magnum but there aren't any B&M Hypers in my neck of the woods. I thought Apollo's Chariot and Raging Bull were pretty cool and I won't get a chance to ride Nitro until this spring. If they were all equal in distance from my house I'd say Arrow.
Sunday, January 15, 2006 2:43 PM
BOTH Arrow and B&M have the same problem, IMO....poor train design (from MY perspective, the GP seems to eat up B&M hypers like they were 25-cent cotton candy). I don't think the Intamins are THAT radically different in terms of layout, drops, etc., but their TRAINS are designed to allow the rider to FEEL the speed and the airtime.

B&M trains seem to *protect* the rider from virtually all forces, and Arrow trains transfer the forces in such a way as to BANG the rider into uncomfortable seat-backs or uncomfortable lap-bars...

The "good Arrows" at least let me *feel* more....but as I told the coaster-lover (enthusiast?) operating Iron Dragon, if you took Millie's trains and put them on Maggie, THEN the Po!nt would *finally* have a non-looping steel coaster that DELIVERED...:)

BTW, he agreed 100%... ;)

*** Edited 1/15/2006 7:45:27 PM UTC by rollergator***


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