I dont understand why you think Arrow is painful. Ive ridden so many Arrows and never have experienced any "pain". Even Steel Phantom...I rode it many many times and never had a headache or neck problems like all the other pussies complained of. People just need to realize roller coasters are not meant to ride like a Lexus.
I consider Phantom's Revenge to be Arrow too...after all, there would be no "Phantom" without Arrow...even tho Morgan redid the second half, its still an Arrow hyper to me b/c even if morgan didnt come in, we'd still have STEEL PHANTOM and thats all that matters...Go Arrow
I would take a ride on Nitro over Magnum any day. I like a coater that is fun and smooth. With Arrow you always had had "I've been in a car wreck" feeling. I love Magnum, (believe me I do) but Nitro is just a great, fun, awesome coaster. I'm not sure that I can't say that Apollo's Chariot or Raging Bull are better coasters, but I can say that they are a lot more enjoyable of a ride than Magnum. Lets face it when you ride an arrow you get thrown around and beat up a little bit, but B&M are and always will be much more enjoyable of a ride. I am sorry but my vote goes to Nitro not magnum or any other Arrow hyper.
There is no such thing as a terrible Coaster just ones that haven't been taken care of
I really love'em both. I've had hundreds of rides on Magnum but there aren't any B&M Hypers in my neck of the woods. I thought Apollo's Chariot and Raging Bull were pretty cool and I won't get a chance to ride Nitro until this spring. If they were all equal in distance from my house I'd say Arrow.
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BOTH Arrow and B&M have the same problem, IMO....poor train design (from MY perspective, the GP seems to eat up B&M hypers like they were 25-cent cotton candy). I don't think the Intamins are THAT radically different in terms of layout, drops, etc., but their TRAINS are designed to allow the rider to FEEL the speed and the airtime.
B&M trains seem to *protect* the rider from virtually all forces, and Arrow trains transfer the forces in such a way as to BANG the rider into uncomfortable seat-backs or uncomfortable lap-bars...
The "good Arrows" at least let me *feel* more....but as I told the coaster-lover (enthusiast?) operating Iron Dragon, if you took Millie's trains and put them on Maggie, THEN the Po!nt would *finally* have a non-looping steel coaster that DELIVERED...:)
BTW, he agreed 100%... ;)
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