SLFAKE said:
DKNY6363 said:
or perhaps a schmeck ;)Not just a Schmeck... but a Schmeck Hyper.
I prefer "Hyper Schmeck" myself. Has a ring to it.
^ I prefer "Hyper Schmeck " too RGB! You're right has a ring to it. If Hershey was listening to me right now they'd remove the skid brakes from the Comet's 2nd turnaround! If they did that it may almost be on the level as the Schmeck in Elysburg. :)
Apparently it used to be THAT good. It's hard for me to imagine it could hold a candle to Phoenix, but apparently it did and that trim changes the ride THAT much, which is odd, 'cuz as far as trims go, it feels like one of the more minor ones.
AV Matt
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Comet was amazing back in the day. My memories of it may be greater than reality, but even judging from those memories, I absolutely bet it would rival Phoenix.
That's what all the local enthusiasts say (the ones that grew up with both rides readily available). I can only imagine it's akin to the High Roller at Valleyfair. Without the trim on, it's AMAZING. Under normal circumstances, it's like Comet.
AV Matt
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212.6 ft is definitely tall enough to build an amazing coaster haha.
If I was in charge of the park I would build a Intamin Hyper and just purchase the craziest layout and know that this new hyper will be the number 1 coaster in the world! :)
Ah yes, I remember VF's High Roller before the trim was added.... the airtime on those back hills was epic. I remember one hop right beneath a tree (the tree is gone) where you got thrown high enough up you could touch the branches. Fun times.
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Yes, that tree was the best headchopper ever! I was sad to see it removed.
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Maverick1983 said:
If I was in charge of the park I would build a Intamin Hyper and just purchase the craziest layout and know that this new hyper will be the number 1 coaster in the world! :)
You will note that the folks that installed the "crazy Intamin hypers" also drove their company into the ground. This isn't RCT.
(Also, the crazy Intamin hypers ejected multiple people.)
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I wonder if a park has ever seriously asked B&M to build a ride as intense as SROS. I'm curious if they feel their restraint isn't up to snuff beyond a certain vertical force or they purposely avoid extreme forces to reduce maintenance, OR... they simply have never been asked to recreate the most popular steel coaster experience in existence. Curious.
AV Matt
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I would like to point out that Diamondback at KI is pretty intense, AV. I remember Jeff and others saying that they wouldn't want to ride it over and over because of the intensity.
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Diamondback intense? Certainly not the Diamondback I have ridden (on two different trips). More like one of the weakest B&M rides I've ever experienced.
AV Matt
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Yeah, Gonch and I squeaked out maybe a dozen laps on media day and we were done. Easily the best non-inverted B&M I've been on.
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To be fair, I have had one great lap on it (it got weaker and weaker subsequently), but nothing I'd call "intense." SROS is intense. El Toro is intense. I305 is intense. Diamondback is soft. Goliath over Georgia is the only B&M hyper that wore me out to the point of quitting ERT early.
AV Matt
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Diamondback is the shizz and da bomb, all rolled into one.
I now direct you back to your rational discussion.
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I'm with AV on Diamondback... Although I do agree it's really good. I wouldn't call it intense. Maybe intense for a B&M.
I will ride Diamondback later this year for the first time. I am hoping that the new seat configuration makes the difference. I've ridden Nitro and Apollo's Chariot and enjoyed them, but I agree with AV that they aren't very intense. That's why I'd prefer Hershey's new coaster is an Intamin.
We are planning a trip to SFOG this season so I'll get to see if Goliath is all that. I'm looking forward to riding Mind Bender. :)
While Goliath is pretty-near Intamin forcefulness, (and Apollo has *a* moment of that ferocity), the other B&M hypers (including D-back) feel all very much the same, to me at least. There are times when you get better rides (nighttime ERTs to be sure), but what I consider *delivering the goods* is reserved for the elite few hyper coasters. (RoS rides, SFoG Goliath, PRevenge). Steel Eel does pretty good work as well. Maggie trimless. I would love to get Nitro brakeless thru that bunny-hop finale some night...
Note: Excellent hypers are far and away my favorite steel coasters...
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