ACE Coaster Landmarks
From reading the article in the ACE Newsletter, I gathered that Coaster Landmark status is granted to coasters that have stood the test of time and have some historic significance attached to them. Zippin Pippin would be a good example of this.
Another coaster I would nominate for this designation ,in addition to the PNE Coaster, is the Corkscrew at Silverwood. It was the first successful looping steel coaster when it first opened at Knotts' Berry Farm in 1975.
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Lets' save the Vancouver PNE Coaster before its'too late!
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Chris Godsey. Zippin Pippin was recognized this year as a ACE coaster classic. The park did something very nice for everyone and removed the dividers that had plauged the ride for some time now.
The coaster now can be enjoyed as it was originally designed.
However, Zippin Pippin should be recocnized as the oldest upstop using coaster in the U.S and thus should have landmark status
Chuck, Don't be Cruel, Nungester
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Charles Nungester.
Is it about coasters or friends? I say both!
Wolf, I fully understand the signifigance of Maggies first hyper standpoint, I would agree that it qualifies for Landmark Status.
But lets look here, Gemini?
Chuck
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Charles Nungester.
Is it about coasters or friends? I say both!
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Jack Rabbit is the third oldest coaster in the world and has been operating since it opened in 1920!
Bobsleds has been around since 1969 and it was built in house.
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I think they may only be three coaster nominated each year. At least that's what it was this year. So if they only pick three next year you will know.
There's a lot of coasters out there that deserve this special nomination. If ACE does and continues to do three per year, then good, it will make it interesting each year (hmmm, what three coasters will ACE nominate this year?). Then we can each make our own personal prediction and see what ACE comes up with. Otherwise if ACE decided to issue them all at once and that's it, then it won't be all that exciting. So if your particular coaster that you picked didn't get nominated, it may be a few years before ACE gets around to it. With possibly only three per year, it makes it also hard for ACE to decided and choose why. Don't know why the Jack Rabbit at Kennywood or Bobsleds at Seabreeze are not nominated, or your own local coaster, then it could be a little while.
I'm not saying which coasters that I chose should be included or not including in the nomination to avoid being bashed at by some of you people, like in my earlier post. Already there's a debate over Magnum at CP. Just wait and see which coasters ACE picks out for next year.
Coaster Ken said:
Just wait and see which coasters ACE picks out for next year.
Now if we went and WAITED for ACE to tell us which ones "have been selected", then we'd be re-active individuals instead of PRO-ACTIVE....the people who jump out front are the ones we call LEADERS, and for good reason....followers are *sheep*, and I'd rather be a *shepherd*....;)
Jeez, that didn't take long. Since you seem to be the leader, mind telling me what the coasters are going to be next year?? Gotta keep my mouth shut more often then.
rollergator, e-mail me when you get a chance. I have a question for you and tried to e-mail you but got no reply.
Personally, I would nominate the following:
-The Giant Dippers
The ONLY original Church coasters left (Dragon coaster is not an intense thriller). Church brought in articulated trains that allowed Twisters to become popular.
-The first LIM coasters, Flight of Fear. The launched coaster renaissance:). S:UE, although a great ride, is just a couple of spikes that stole this idea.
-Racer, comeon people, it started the Renaissance:).
-Phoenix:Popularized the idea of relocating coasters.
Matterhorn-first steel.
I don't care if a coaster is worshipped by millions (including myself). MF COUGH COUGH.... If it did not set itself apart from the rest of the industry, it's *just* a great coaster (not that that's bad:))
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How many rides must a man go on, before you may call him a fan?
The coasters I would pick:-
Loch Ness Monster (BGW) - There is nothing really world first about it but is a good ride and one which will have converted many to be enthusiasts.
Matterhorn (DLC) - This ride was the first with tubular steel track and has resulted in the modern coaster craze that we have now.
Grand National (BPB) - Not eligible for Classic status but is a truely magnificent coaster that has lasted the test of time and still thrills today. In fact I would put all five of Blackpools wooden coasters and Southports's Cyclone.
Scienic Railway (Margate) - A coaster that has converted many to become coaster enthusiasts and one of the very few wooden coasters with a brake man.
Olympia Looping (German Fairs) - Stunning ride that is then packed up and moved on at the end of the two weeks. A incredible piece of engineering and built on the pass successes of Drier Looping, Thriller etc...
Mindbender (SFOG) - No records but a wonderful ride.
Magnum (CP) - I think this one may have been covered by a fair few people.
Rutschbahan (Bakken) - One of only a few Scieic Railways but by all accounts an incredible ride with has survived against all odds.
Thunderbolt / Jack Rabbit (Kennywood) - How many times does this ride been rebuilt in part, putting Kennywood where it is now.
Katapul (Hopi Hari) - Wherever it has been it has universally delighted fans to first riders. The original weight drop launch and one I most regrete not riding.
Wilko
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Oi, I think some of us need to be a bit more selective in our picks. I'd hate to see what some of you would do with The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
"And this year's first nominee is....Limp Bizkit!"
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If the shoe fits, find another one.
ravenguy98: I hear ya. Starting to sound like a "Nominate your personal favorite" listing.
John Wilkes: Thunderbolt / Jack Rabbit? You including both of these or do you mean Thunderbolt / Pippin?
Then again... I'm only "GP" (and proud of that fact!)... so my comments on this thread really don't count for much.
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Not a "leader", but I certainly don't mind *suggesting* that we DO seem to have SOME input...and the more, the merrier! There are quite a few people here who really have good ideas, etc. Of course, there are the "noisemakers" as well, but I think within a day or two, the "insiders" know who's who!
IF we're only getting 3 coasters a year recognized, I say let's make them good ones...
Finally, JW, Katapul is an awesome choice since it's MY first loop, and while Mindbender at SFoG is a GREAT ride, I don't see it happening (regardless of the number of inversions, lol).
Jeff said:
If Magnum wouldn't have been built at Cedar Point, it would've been built somewhere. So while CP would be "different," the coaster world in general would not have been.
So? You're saying that if Magnum hadn't changed the coaster world, another coaster would have. Well, that's fine and dandy. But Magnum was the coaster to change the industry. Just becasue someone's gonna do it doesn't mean that the person who actually does doesn't put any effort into it. It's almost like saying that, well, we shouldn't give the plaque to Leap The Dips 'cause, well, if this wasn't the oldest operating coaster in the world, another one would be. Not quite the same, but similair.
Someone mentioned the Grand National_ I agree, but I'm not sure ACE would do this, as the ride's in England.
A flip side to (SF)Great American's argument against Leap the Dips (Yeah, I know it was only an example)... If Magnum is around in 2087, give it to it then... no reason to give it now.
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Kind of hard to take a post as objective if a park or coaster name is part of the "user name"
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I can't believe no one here has mentioned the almost extinct:
WHIZZER at SFGAM
This coaster should definitely be nominated. Heck it's one of the last one's in existance.
Later
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I mentioned it...
But I was only half serious. Yes, it's a rareity, but should rareity alone be a reason? I think it should, but that might only be because this was my very first coaster, and I am incredibly predjudiced for it...
SFLAKE, I can only understand your statement to mean that you only want the oldest coaster on Earth to have this designation... As I'm sure that's not what you meant, could you please elaborate?
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the Phoenix, unless i missed it! IMHO it should get Landmark status for being the first coaster of the modern area moved and preserved. Plus it operates like a true classic in every sense of the of the word, if only it wasn't for those seat dividers.
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"John Wilkes: Thunderbolt / Jack Rabbit? You including both of these or do you mean Thunderbolt / Pippin? "
I meant Thunderbolt and Pippin sorry abot that.
"JW, Katapul is an awesome choice since it's MY first loop, and while Mindbender at SFoG is a GREAT ride, I don't see it happening (regardless of the number of inversions, lol)."
Was Katapul the first launched coaster or were there others before, I know it was the first Weight Drop Launched. As for Mindbender I didn't think it would be is one of the rides near the top of my to ride list.
"Someone mentioned the Grand National_ I agree, but I'm not sure ACE would do this, as the ride's in England."
I did try to mention mainly non-American rides as no one else had so far. There are enough American's on the forum to nominate these rides but outside there are many other historically relevant coasters elsewhere but most are unheard of. HOw many people had heard of Bakken's stunning Scienic Railway?
Wilko
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