Don't get me wrong, I like them just the way they are and wouldn't change it for a thing, but with recent events that have happened, and concerns over guest safety, one might think that parks might start asking for OTSR's in the design of their sit-down coasters.
I know they're(OTSR's) a pain in the butt and uncomfortable at times but if guests of larger sizes keep getting booted off rides, they're gonna have a tendency to perhaps stay away from the rides/parks all together. And with the new 2" rule with seatbelts on MF (for example) larger guests may be in some trouble. I'm not saying that only large guests visit amusement parks by any means, but the fact remains that Americans in general are getting heavier every day/year.
As a guest of some size, I'd personally wouldn't mind seeing this trend start up so as not only to allow for more "lee-way" (for lack of a better word) but to create a safer feeling environment. I'll probably get flamed to death over this but oh well! :) Thoughts, ideas, suggestions?
Obese people... it's their own fault. They can control their weight problem if they put their mind to it. So if they're booted off a ride for being too "large", it's their own damn fault... not the ride-op's, not the ride manufactures for making the restraints "for normal folks".
I like the trend of more lap-bars than OSTR's, but I also like advances in technical achievement, where-as it's more safer for the rider altogether. Dispatching the train should only occur if every restraint has reached a certain minimum locking point, and all seatbelts are sensed that they are locked & secured. If they aren't, there should be a sensor that restricts the train from dispatching.
Whatever happens to the rider after the ride dispatches, is really the riders own fault... if they decide to wiggle out of the restraint, or unbuckle the belt for their own pleasure... blame should not be put on the ride-op as they did their job, and definately not the manufacture for providing a safe product when used under their guidelines.
Those warning signs they put out in the front of the queues & sometimes station houses aren't there for decoration, ya know!
You see, obesity and overeating truly isn't a complete control/choice type matter. It is an addiction, your body does truly crave food in ways you probably don't understand. I myself am not obese or overweight, but I have done lots of research for my health classes and food has the same effects of several drugs.
If you are lucky enough to have stayed thin and not become addicted, don't rub it in other people's faces. A lot of obesity is genetic as well and people's metabolisms are dangerously slow. Therefore, in many cases they are not to blame.
Also, I'd like to see the reports that say all of the victims who have been thrown from the train were obese. I'm not saying it's not true, just want to see proof.
Oh, and Dawgbyte, I like your ideas for a safer ride, I do agree that if people are overweight, they really should check with the seat at the beginning of the que (when they do have one) if they don't fit comfortably, they shouldn't wait in line and hope the ride operator won't notice it, that's just stupid.
Nevertheless, my 7 year-old doesn't need to go flying from a ride just because the average US adult keeps getting heavier and heavier. I hope the Swiss, Germans and Yankees maintain the same point of view.
What about your joints...
Uhh... are you referring to where you bone connects to another... or... the other kind of joints ;)
Because I don't think you can ever be too large to enjoy the other kind of joints
I also agree that an electronic check of seatbelts (like on Star Tours) and lap bars would be optimal but I don't know the logistics of that. A coaster car goes through some serious vibrations...even the steel coasters. What effect that would have on an on-board computer and the associated electronics is anybody's guess.
What about the larger guests? "Sorry, Sir, because you like many Americans are getting larger, you cannot ride this ride because CBaby and Da Midget need to fit in it too."
I am not only speaking of weight, I know some taller people who cannot ride V2 and DejaVu because they are too tall. What should we do with them? Chop them off at the knees?
The average Human height in general has increased more than four inches in the past 100 years with a majority of that growth "spurt" occurring in the last 50 years.
I also thought that MF had something similar, based on their reputation to overly-protect riders for a safer environment, but I am probably wrong.
I also believe that if I can't fit on a specific ride due to whatever circumstances created it that way, then I can't ride. Period. I'd rather know I was safer not attempting to defeat the restraint specs than to tempt fate and try to get on anyway.
Batwing vibrates so darn much that it's no wonder why it breaks down after about every half hour or so of continual operation.
Anyhow we do need to lose some weight in this country because we are fast becoming a nation of large people...most of these rides are manufactured in europe by skinny europeans who don't really have any large people within the population to model a restraint system around & even if they did it still just isn't safe for someone to ride if the restraint cannot fit them properly.
It's this same basic reason as to why we have minimum height restrictions that guests must meet in order to ride....if you're too small,or too large the restraint can't properly function & do it's job which is to keep you secure in the seat at all times during the ride.
Both of these seem to be flaws with the intamin restraints. People who are too large for the restraint still fit in the seat and that the bar can be tight against your body, but if it is not tight against your thighs it is not safe.
As far as who the rides should be designed for, i do not think it is practical (as apparent from the intamin accidents) that rides can accomodate both very large guests and smaller guests and be safe for both. The parks are going to have to decide who their main target market is and priority of design will be to accomodate those guests.
*** Edited 5/10/2004 4:23:16 PM UTC by super7***
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