A look at maverick's new trains.

Does anyone know why the bumper on the front of this train looks so beat up but the ones on the other trains are looking like brand new.

http://www.pointbuzz.com/Gallery.aspx?i=6314

^By the looks of the wood on the front it looks like this one was the walkthrough train.

They took the front off and put the board on to check the clearance of the passengers hands to the supports.

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Why can't Intamin go back to what they did back in 1993 and 2000 on DLP Indiana Jones coaster? It does exactly what they were trying to achieve on TTD and it does so with little to no breakdowns! Indiana Jones and the Temple of Peril is a compact looper based on an Pinfari design. It runs 6 12 passengers trains and it loads 2 at the same time.

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Thats because TTD is a Hydraulic launch coaster which requires more maintenance, while Indiana is a traditional looper.

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gomez said:
The original plan was for both trains to start moving together and stop together.

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Just because it's in the animation doesn't mean that's how it was supposed to happen. Having them both start and stop at the same time is unrealistic. However, there are many coasters out there that will bring another train into the station when the front train is only partially out, so that's kind of like two trains in one block, only in a much slower and much more controlled environment.

You're right, but TTD was designed to start one train and start the other one moments after. That's the reason for all the sensors.
http://pointbuzz.com/Gallery.aspx?i=713

I assume that maverick will have just as many sensors as dragster does.

The length of the the train and the weight have nothing to do with the launch. If you plug the numbers into the formula for momentum (p=mxv) you'll find out that an object with a higher mass needs less velocity to get it over the top of the hill. I think the short trains are just so everybody gets the same experience.

^ 100% incorrect. It has everything to do with the launch. If you look at another equation, F=m*a, you'll see that the higher the mass, the more force is required to get accelerating. The only thing momentum has to do with in roller coasters is the braking systems. More mass = more momentum = a need for more powerful brakes. No matter the mass, getting over to top of the hill is dependent on speed alone.

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coasterkid92 said:
If you plug the numbers into the formula for momentum (p=mxv) you'll find out that an object with a higher mass needs less velocity to get it over the top of the hill.

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So... you're failing high school physics is what you're trying to say.

I am no math major, but woulden't it take less power to have a chain lift rather than a launched lift? If I am not mistaken, the current lift hill is not going to "launch" the trains, but just do the same thing that a chain lift would do.

^You could but since the thing has a mid train launch the fins for the lims have to be where the chain dog for a normal lift would need to be. You cannot have the LIMs under the train if you have a lift (since they would both interfere with each other's function and no they cannot move them to the side, they both must be in the midline.

Of course the solution to this is to have side LIMs like Premier has, but they either own the patent to that, Intamin didnt want to redesign the train, CP didnt want to pay for the redesign or a combination of the three.
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Redesign the train? These trains aren't like anything else that Intamin has built as far as I know, save for the design of the half-pipe rides (LSM's in the center, pushing magnet sandwiches on the train).

^Besides from the length and the addition of the fins, what else has changed from Storm Runner? From the pictures they look practically identical, am I missing something?

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Touchdown said:
^You could but since the thing has a mid train launch the fins for the lims have to be where the chain dog for a normal lift would need to be. You cannot have the LIMs under the train if you have a lift (since they would both interfere with each other's function and no they cannot move them to the side, they both must be in the midline.

Of course the solution to this is to have side LIMs like Premier has, but they either own the patent to that, Intamin didnt want to redesign the train, CP didnt want to pay for the redesign or a combination of the three.
*** Edited 2/28/2007 5:43:00 PM UTC by Touchdown***

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Not to say that Maverick needs a chain for the first hill you are wrong on the chain lift statement.

Some rides (eg. Expedition Everest) the chain is not in the center but close to one of the sides.

Look at all the videos of EE the roll dog is in the center and the chain lift is on the left side.

Looking at the pictures of the undercarage of maverick, it looks like there would be room for a chain dog on eather side.

Ala, EE.

I though this was fact that Maverick was going to be LSM (or was it LIM) launched! Either way, ther is no bloody chain invloved!

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Touchdown said:
^Besides from the length and the addition of the fins, what else has changed from Storm Runner? From the pictures they look practically identical, am I missing something?

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Touchdown said:
...CP didnt want to pay for the redesign or a combination of the three.

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Every post someone makes is not made in a vacuum. Look around for the context.

Although it's interesting to look at Touchdown's post again because it doesn't make any sense. The dialog between park and manufacturer isn't, "I'd like you to design this, how much does it cost?" It's more, "We're pitching this to you, it will cost this much."

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Jeff said:

Although it's interesting to look at Touchdown's post again because it doesn't make any sense. The dialog between park and manufacturer isn't, "I'd like you to design this, how much does it cost?" It's more, "We're pitching this to you, it will cost this much."

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I guess I didnt do a good job explaining myself what I was really trying to get at is that the ride has a slow launch up the hill instead of a lift is it was more economical to have it instead of a lift.

Allthough on second thought I have no idea how fast the car will be going when it crests that first drop and perhaps the design team thought they needed extra velocity to design a better ride.

However, you defintatly have more knowledge then me when it comes to these deals. Thanks for posting that info.

IIRC, Tony said between 5 and 7mph

Seems kinda slow, especally when you considar the speed of MF. Then again MF is a cable lift.