All I wanted was a room that accommodates 6 people at a reasonable rate. I believe many of you do not have 6 people so you dont know how difficult it is. That's it 2 beds and a pull out couch !
My major complaint is the only alternative is to get two rooms which makes it highly un affordable. Every Disney website that sells packages caters to four people and I believe that's discrimination to larger families
And all we are telling you is that your definition of reasonable isn't very reasonable.
I think you're trolling us. Really, it's "discrimination" because you can't afford to stay at a monorail resort twice per year? Why would you expect their most premium hotels to be cheap? And saying that Universal is great because Cabana Bay is affordable makes no sense, as the Portofino is a more apples-to-apples comparison to the monorail resorts.
One thing I learned from this election cycle - people's willingness to lightly throw around words like "discrimination" "racism" and "oppression" have basically taken away any useful critique that they once carried.
Hobbes: "What's the point of attaching a number to everything you do?"
Calvin: "If your numbers go up, it means you're having more fun."
I find it a bit amusing that someone who says they have been going to Disney for 20 years, many of those years 2x per year, complains that some aspect of the Disney vacation is not affordable enough. Those of us who have never been able to scrounge up the money for one Disney vacation feel for you, we really do. As far as there being only one Disney World they are just one of many theme and amusement parks available and so it is possible to choose some substitute to save money. If you have to have a specific major brand instead of the store brand anything you just have to pay more. If you have to have Disney instead of Universal, Six Flags or Cedar Fair then you end up paying whatever Disney wants to charge and sine the parks are over flowing Disney can charge a lot. I can't afford it, that sucks, I'm over it. I'll just go to Cedar Point instead.
I said a room for 6 is not fairly priced. 6 nights at animal kingdom is $9700.00 without tickets. There are only 2 hotels that have rooms big enough for 6 people. 10 grand is not reasonable unless your delusional
FYI, you can rent a three/four bedroom condo, in an off-property gated resort off of 192, a few miles from WDW for less than $150 a night.
Wait you really want to laugh so you want to stay on the monorail do you, six nights at the contemporary a room that sleeps six is $11,423 without tickets or food.
What planet do you people come from to tell me that's reasonable. The point is I'm not saying I want it for free I'm not saying I wanted to be cheap but that's ridiculous let's be rational now and stop acting foolish. I really don't care about your supply and demand reasoning and what the market will bear crap. Let's be realistic here unless most of you out there make $400,000 a year which I don't think you do.
Yes the Washington Post is correct it's not affordable for working-class family to spend that kind of money it's for people that make over the top incomes the top 10% I didn't say one percent I said they cater to the top 10% that's who can afford that. And then it only goes up from there at a nicer place to $15,000 for six nights so I don't know what crack pipe you guys are smoking but it must be good stuff
Monorail resorts aren't meant to be 'reasonable'! They're the ultra luxurious, high end resorts! What part of that don't YOU get??
I can't afford one note in them for one person, but that doesn't mean I think they should make it more affordable to me!
As a matter of fact, I couldn't afford 6 nights at ANY on site property. Hasn't stopped me from going and having an amazing time and not complaining.
Are the airlines also discriminating when they charge 33% more for a family of 6 versus a family of 4?
In the end you're pissed that YOU can't afford it. The thing is, there are people that can - hence the price. And no, not many (any?) of them are here.
That seems to be the disconnect. You're calling us delusional because as a whole we're not angry that something other people can afford is outside of our budgets.
Sorry we don't share your anger or sense of entitlement.
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TomG said:
I said a room for 6 is not fairly priced. 6 nights at animal kingdom is $9700.00 without tickets. There are only 2 hotels that have rooms big enough for 6 people. 10 grand is not reasonable unless your delusional
I don't know about who is delusional, but you suck at room shopping. I just checked the official site to find, for 7 nights starting 1/21/17:
And I agree with Gonch. It seems like your issue with the monorail hotel pricing is that you can't afford it. I go to the Poly frequently (because Dolewhip), and clearly they're not having any issue finding people willing to pay the price there.
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You keep missing the part where he wants to go when the prices aren't that low and stay in a monorail resort because your facts don't work in his universe.
You're going to call the contemporary high and luxury resort maybe if it was a high-end out your resort I can understand it but it's far from that I don't know what word you want me to use if I say reasonable or fairly priced there's a major disconnect somewhere so tell me at what point do you call it crazy. Is it at $50,000 a week, tell me what you think The reality of it is you have Disney flowing through your blood and in your eyes they can do no wrong you will defend them at every turn even if it was 50,000 a week you all would probably say the same thing you're saying now Take the Disney Colered glasses off. I'm not angry or feel a sense of entitlement. I have no idea where that last statement fits in And furthermore I never said I couldn't afford it. I do believe y'all drinking the Kool-Aid Also an airline will sell you 180 seats if you want to buy them on the same plane Disney doesn't have rooms that sleep six that's my point, I don't want to rooms I want my family to be in the same room.
And because I said the word discriminate does it mean it has anything to do with the word racism or oppression , I feel that was out of line but if you want to touch on that subject I have friends that are African-American and they went to Disney World and they said you can count on one hand the amount of African Americans there , they felt They are priced out of the box.
It's funny how The Washington post, Orlando Sentinel, New York Times and the New York Post all say the same thing how Disney left most families behind and cater to the top 10% but not one of you all a myth that ever or see the truth behind it all. Read the article from the Orlando Sentinel maybe it will open your eyes
https://www.google.com/amp/www.orlandosentinel.com/opinion/os-disne...ent=safari
I've always heard that the monorail hotels are some of the most expensive properties on earth. I'm not sure they are, or ever were intended to be accessible to the masses. We should remember that monorail properties were the original WDW hotels, and it should be no mystery as to why they eventually conceived the Port Orleans and All Stars Resorts of the world. It's because WDW has consciously attempted to make a vacation affordable for more - but it should be clear from the get-go that not everyone gets to stay on the damn monorail.
But let's, for the fun of it, envision multi-income housing along the monorail. Could they build several/many more resorts around the loop? Sure they could, there's room. But would an extremely crowded monorail at park opening and especially at close be what high-end customers expect to endure? From my experience they're crowded enough already. Would an additional 3 or 4 stops along the rail mean tighter schedules and additional overhead? Yes. Would the customer experience improve? For anyone? No.
But then again, we're there this coming February at the Grand for 250/night. Just the two of us, mind you, but I can't fathom six people in a room or even a suite.
As much as I like staying on the loop, truthfully it's good for MK, EPCOT, and not much else. The last time we were at Grand Floridian we spent plenty of time on the bus, so maybe it's not quite as awesome as one thinks.
And let's talk Universal for a sec, because I think you've got apples and oranges going there. If Cabana Bay is appealing to you, then you must not mind walkable/bussable distance to the gate. I've been by the resort and it's easy to know why it's cheaper. It's far and it's cheap. It's not what I consider to be monorail property. Which begs the question: could Disney build a bunch of Cabana Bays along the monorail? Yes. Will they? No. (see argument above^)
In other words, Disney only owes you the experience you're willing (or able) to pony up to. They're not bound in any way to provide multi-income housing in any single resort.
TomG, have you ever considered or looked into Disney's Key West resort? I stayed there once with a large group in a second and third floor condo. Nice bedrooms, separate baths, balconies, kitchen, laundry, and we all loved it. And it was as close and convenient as any. And really nice. I haven't checked into rates there for years, but just a thought.
Or maybe, especially if you're sometimes twice a year for the last twenty, you should look into DVC and time share a space that's comfortable for all of you.
You should probably also quit looking for sympathetic ears around here. Many of us are Disney savvy and know what we're talking about. And those of us who get to go and those of us who are still dreaming seem to be on the same page here, so there's that too.
RCMAC said:
As much as I like staying on the loop, truthfully it's good for MK, EPCOT, and not much else. The last time we were at Grand Floridian we spent plenty of time on the bus, so maybe it's not quite as awesome as one thinks.
^^^^THIS!!!
Well, kinda. If you have kids, the monorail resorts perhaps can make sense if you are planning to spend more time at the MK.
Otherwise, I believe the Epcot resorts (Beach, Yacht, BW, Swan/Dolphin) are the best resorts on property in terms of location. Especially if you tend to end up at Epcot at night for drinks, dinner and/or Illuminations. There is nothing better at WDW than to be able to skip the crowds and busses and be able to walk back to your room at your own pace.
TomG said:
.... I don't know what word you want me to use if I say reasonable or fairly priced there's a major disconnect somewhere so tell me at what point do you call it crazy. Is it at $50,000 a week, tell me what you think The reality of it is you have Disney flowing through your blood and in your eyes they can do no wrong you will defend them at every turn even if it was 50,000 a week you all would probably say the same thing you're saying now.
Walt Disney World isn't there to be 'reasonable' or 'fairly priced'. It's there to remove as much money from your pocket as it can. If you don't want to pay the premium to stay on property, there are thousands of options off-property to choose from.
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