Wahoo,
yep, Disney offers excess DVC capacity to non-DVC members at book rates. They call them Deluxe Villas on the reservations site. I think it was in the original purchase documents that Disney holds back some small percentage of total capacity at each DVC resort at time of creation to do whatever they want with, including to offer to paying customers.
Shane mentioned mouseowners above, and there are sites that specializes in connecting people who'd like to stay in a DVC room with DVC members wanting to convert points into cash. I think they claimed it comes out to about half the book rate for the purchaser.
That is interesting and it is something I will have to look into. I really think that is the way Disney will move forward. I've heard that there are some additional DVC units on the books so it is only a matter of time. If you can "sell" those until 40+ weeks per year and then rent them out on top of that it certainly makes some sense (and cents).
The hard thing is that you don't really want to not renew passes because the discount is not insignificant. :)
I don't know what I spent with Disney this year, but I can look it up. With the Alaska cruise, it's in excess of five figures. Outside of college, I've never spent that much with one company, but it was worth it.
Jeff - Editor - CoasterBuzz.com - My Blog
I remember posting this a while back. Disney gives you a great discount yes, but at what cost? For you it was five figure. :)
Not saying its a bad thing, I ran into precisely that same problem in 2014-2015. Kept going back to "make the passes worthwhile."
http://www.highlandernews.org/20706/disney-fans-is-it-fair-to-pay-f...nual-pass/
However, most people do not have or are not able to spend such a large sum to accommodate Disney’s price hikes. It is unfair for many loyal fans, who may be discouraged from visiting, because Disney implies that the happiest place on earth is only for those who can afford it.
Disney should only charge so much for experiencing a piece of one’s childhood. Expansions, inflation and record attendance do not justify Disney’s rapid price increase.
Well said !
TomG said:
However, most people do not have or are not able to spend such a large sum to accommodate Disney’s price hikes. It is unfair...
Just to let you know where I stopped reading. Record attendance does in fact justify raising the price, because of the fifth grade economics you refuse to accept.
Jeff - Editor - CoasterBuzz.com - My Blog
Stop keep quoting what economics has to do with this. Like I said when is enough enough and stop being pigs and want it all. Set tell me when is enough enough 10 billion 20 billion 50 billion hundred billion when is enough enough. Disney met and exceeded their operating budgets and models and forecasts. Like it says they do it because they can
TomG said:
Stop keep quoting what economics has to do with this. Like I said when is enough enough and stop being pigs and want it all. Set tell me when is enough enough 10 billion 20 billion 50 billion hundred billion when is enough enough. Disney met and exceeded their operating budgets and models and forecasts. Like it says they do it because they can
You actually gave the exact reason in your response why economics has EVERYTHING to do with this. The market will determine the correct ticket prices. When the market decides they are too high, the guests will stop showing up. Disney will go "uh oh, better lower ticket prices." Or alternatively they will need to add more items to justify the ticket prices. At that point the market will respond by showing up again.
When is enough enough? When the market stops going to the parks. It has not happened yet.
TomG said:
However, most people do not have or are not able to spend such a large sum to accommodate Disney’s price hikes. It is unfair for many loyal fans, who may be discouraged from visiting, because Disney implies that the happiest place on earth is only for those who can afford it.
Disney should only charge so much for experiencing a piece of one’s childhood. Expansions, inflation and record attendance do not justify Disney’s rapid price increase.
Well said !
Most people probably don't have the money to spend, it doesn't matter. Parks are still full.
Fairness has nothing to do with proper pricing, pricing is determined by the market response.
Loyal fans might be discouraged from visiting, someone else will take their place.
Of course it is only for those who can afford it, isn't that how our entire economy works?
The do only charge so much, right now that is $97-$114 for one day at the Magic Kingdom, depending on dates. Not everyone will have Disney as part of their childhood. I could argue based on your logic that airlines should give free flights if you don't live in Orlando. Everyone is entitled to Disney, it is after all a piece of their childhood, right?
Record attendance is THE SOLE REASON they continue to increase prices and develop add on pay experiences.
TomG said:
...because Disney implies that the happiest place on earth is only for those who can afford it.
Well, yeah. Like any business. Cedar Point is for the people can afford it. Saks Fifth Avenue is for the people who afford it. Likewise, Cirque do Soleil, Target and Outback Steakhouse.
Life is something that happens when you can't get to sleep.
--Fran Lebowitz
Mcdonalds is also for the people that can afford it. Should these places start taking food stamps so more people can afford? At this point I feel like he's just trolling and not really trying to argue, but instead just be a douchey troll with no logic.
Not gonna argue with you :-)
You're right.
Life is something that happens when you can't get to sleep.
--Fran Lebowitz
TomG said:
Stop keep quoting what economics has to do with this.
We're officially being trolled. Time to stop replying.
I'm one step from being homeless. I eat grass and dirt for dinner. As many applications that I put in, I can't find anything better than a part-time job at Walmart. I get on CoasterBuzz, and find a guy who is complaining that it's not affordable for a family of six to stay at a monorail resort twice a year at Walt Disney World. He's upset that he and his family has to stay at a less expensive resort when he goes.
I see crap like this on the internet all the time. Why not appreciate what you are able to afford. I appreciate that I can afford to eat at McDonald's once a month. I appreciate that I was able to afford my new Apple TV because I saved money by cutting the cable bill this month. I appreciate that I could afford $60 to buy Christmas presents for my family this year, because my employer was gracious enough to give me a bonus.
And I laugh and laugh. Because, it's really funny.
-Travis
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TomG, I pose the same question to you in the reverse. How low should they go? No matter what price they set, there will always be people who want to experience the happiest place on earth but can't afford it. Why don't they cut their profits to $500,000? Or $50. I mean, that's still profit.
Hobbes: "What's the point of attaching a number to everything you do?"
Calvin: "If your numbers go up, it means you're having more fun."
^^^What LK and Andy said, and much better than I could have said.
Life is something that happens when you can't get to sleep.
--Fran Lebowitz
Lostkause I don't believe you going to find work on coasterbuzz. This is the wrong forum if your out of work.
Get it right. I only made a observation and suggestions . I am a paying customer and I have every right in the world to suggest that a company that takes my money make accommodations for larger families that at this point are not readily available as they are for smaller families. Nothing more nothing less.
I have every right to suggest they give me a unicorn the poops candy rainbows every time I walk through the gate. Will it ever happen? Is it even reasonable?
Hobbes: "What's the point of attaching a number to everything you do?"
Calvin: "If your numbers go up, it means you're having more fun."
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