bigkirby said:
Titan Fan, hope you don't mind my answering this for you.
If you would have read another threads, he sated how he plans on building a park in Texas. Be is simply trying to find out good rides and getting overall some great ideas for his park. Be glad he's asking for a B&M rather that a Vekoma SLC.
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I pray that I will never see a Six Flags Conneaut Lake
OMG! For real? Dude, PLEASE build it in or very very very near Houston! AstroWorld SUCKS, it's SUCKED ever since Six Flags bought it, and it will ALWAYS SUCK unless someone else comes to town to give Six Flags some competition here! Besides, we Houstonians are all thoroughly OVER having to drive hundreds of miles every single year to be able to ride some REAL coasters, just because Six Flags WON'T build anything unique for us! I GUARANTEE that every single person in this city would GLADLY patronize your new park, if you would just build the kind of rides that Six Flags REFUSES to build for us! Please! I'M BEGGING YOU! The entire city of Houston and the surrounding area is begging you!!!
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I think you'll be a hit Titan_fan!
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I pray that I will never see a Six Flags Conneaut Lake
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Nothing against B&M coasters, but with $12 million, you could build 3 or 4 decent-sized CCI coasters! Imagine that...
I am more into Steel coasters, But I am really looking in to the CCI and GCI coasters. But I feel I would not have a complete park without a B&M.
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Titan Laps :16
IornDraggon,
I Have given houston some thought as well as nort,north Texas. But if SFAW is really that bad, then I am going to look into more of the Houston area.
Thanks for mentioning Houston.
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Titan Laps :16
Yea um...Hey Kid...
-How are you going to do this?
-Why start planning when you dont have clearence from a city(most people don't want an amusement park in their backyard;))
-How are you going to get the money? Mommy doesn't always give you what you need...
-How could you run your own park at the age of 13?
-How are you going to manage a park when you havn't gone to college or any buisness classes?
...Just something for you to think about...
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Actually, it would be a smarter move to avoid an area where a Six Flags park is, such as Astroworld. If good competition sprouts up, Six Flags will most likely pump money into Astroworld in order to win the battle, and its difficult to compete with the money Six Flags has.
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ßruce said:
"Yea um...Hey Kid...
-How are you going to do this?
-Why start planning when you dont have clearence from a city(most people don't want an amusement park in their backyard;))
-How are you going to get the money? Mommy doesn't always give you what you need...
-How could you run your own park at the age of 13?
-How are you going to manage a park when you havn't gone to college or any buisness classes?
...Just something for you to think about...
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Ricochet: Bouncing to you in 2002, Only at King's Dominion!
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How will I do all this you say, I will trust God,and use my knowledge. That is how. One other thing, it says Titan_Fan_13, that is not my age, its my fave number.
*** This post was edited by TITAN_FAN_13 on 9/22/2001. ***
TITAN_FAN_13 how old are you, what kind of schooling have you had??
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Titan Fan, SFAW has NO B&M's, and very little room for expansion! Even if they did try to compete with you, it would take them YEARS to do it! At the very worst, they'd probably offer to buy you out, if your park didn't make it, but I guarantee that the people around here have been FED UP with Six Flags and SFAW more than long enough that they would do ANYTHING for a park that would give them a good B&M! Plus, if you could afford one with 7 or more inversions, your park would be the ONLY park in Texas with a 7 inversion coaster! Even Superman Krypton Coaster at SFFT only has 6 inversions, and that's the closest that a B&M coaster has gotten to Houston so far. Also, SFFT doesn't have enough room for a larger B&M, and Neither does SFOT, and those two parks already have at least one B&M anyway. I know that it would be VERY expensive to build a 7 inversion B&M coaster, but it shouldn't be that much more than $12 million. It should only cost you about $15 million or so, and only $18 million at the most. Believe me, if you could afford to spend the money on a B&M coaster that was radically different from any of the other B&M coasters currently in Texas, people from all over the state and all over the world would flock to your park in droves! And it wouldn't be very difficult to come up with a layout that stands out from the rest of them either. SFOT's B&M is just a standard Batman layout with only 5 inversions, just like the one at Sea World in San Antonio, and SFFT's B&M floorless is currently the most unique B&M in the state. So, SKC is really the coaster that you should go out of your way to surpass. If I were you, and I could afford to do it myself, I'd spend as much money as possible on a B&M that makes everything else in Texas look like the garbage that it is, and use the profits that it made for me to slowly add other unique attractions! If a strategy like that can work in Florida, there's no reason in the world why it can't work here too. Florida used to have no roller coasters at all, except for the ones at Disney World, and now they have FOUR different types of 7 inversion B&M coasters, and every single one of them has made BILLIONS for the parks that they were installed in! Kraken at Sea World Orlando was the most recent one, and I understand that attendance figures at that park have skyrocketed ever since it opened to the public! And Sea World Orlando had NO roller coasters before that, except for their liquid coaster, the Journey to Atlantis, which is hardly a world-class ride. Now they have the tallest and fastest roller coaster in Orlando, and people can't get there fast enough to ride it! So, I GUARANTEE that anyone who tells you that building your park in or near Houston is a bad idea is STUPID. Personally, I think that it would make much less sense to build a park in north Texas, because they already have SFOT & a small mom & pop park in Amarillo, so you really don't want to put a smaller park out of business, do you? Competing with SFAW would be MUCH WISER, because they're no real competition at all right now, and even if they could compete with you, they probably wouldn't, because Six Flags is too busy spending most of its money outside of Texas. When they do spend money here, it's ALWAYS at SFOT & SFFT, it's NEVER here! They also COULDN'T compete with you very much here because SFOT's investors are NOTORIOUS for stealing rides that were destined for SFAW! Those people up there are the ones that you really wanna stay away from, because they DO have the money to compete with you, and they WILL, but if your park is nowhere near them, it would be very hard for them to compete with you, even if they did build better rides than you did! However, that's not very likely to happen either, because they have even less room left for expansion than SFAW! Why do you think that they built the Titan in their parking lot? All of the Six Flags parks in Texas are almost completely out of room, so if you could buy enough land down here to make room for some MAJOR rides, I guarantee that you could put SFAW out of business, and most of the people here in Houston would THANK YOU for it! Meanwhile, I'm sure that the people in Amarillo would be VERY UPSET if a new park threatened to shut down the little mom & pop operation up there, don't you? Besides, if you did put SFAW out of business, Six Flags would still have their parks in Dallas & San Antonio, so it wouldn't hurt them at all. In fact, it would probably be the biggest favor that you could do for them, and EVERYONE around here, because you could finally put poor SFAW out of its misery! PLEASE, look into it, SERIOUSLY! If I'm wrong, you name your price for revenge, and I'll be your slave for eternity! BTW, I run a website for coaster enthusiasts here, and I get TONS of mail complaining about how much SFAW sucks, ALL THE TIME, so I KNOW what I'm talking about! The fans in this area are READY for a new park! We just need someone who CAN and WILL build it for us!
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Hey Titan Fan, one more thing: When Sea World of Texas built the Great White, it was the FIRST and ONLY inverted coaster in Texas, and the ONLY roller coaster at that park, and it more than doubled their attendance! I also understand that it paid for itself in the very first year of its operation, so again, I GUARANTEE that if you could afford to build the FIRST and ONLY 7 inversion coaster in Texas, you should be able to recover your investment in NOTIME, even if that was the ONLY coaster in your park! I don't care what anyone else tells you about population density and demographics, the old adage is still true today: If you build it, they WILL come, no matter where it is, and if you build it in Houston, the 4th largest city in the nation, you can't help but make money off of it! Why do you think that SFAW always makes more than enough money to keep itself running, even though they almost NEVER build any new rides here, and when they do build new rides, they're nothing NEW at all? There's PLENTY of business waiting here for you, and if you build something unique enough, the toursists will come from EVERYWHERE to check it out, I PROMISE! I know that there's alot of FOOLS around here who will try to convince you otherwise, but if Six Flags can keep SFAW in the black by NEGLECTING it, then I don't see any reason in the world why someone like you couldn't make a FORTUNE by building REAL rides here!
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*** This post was edited by irondraggon on 9/22/2001. ***
OK Titan Fan, I know that I've said alot already, but just in case you're wondering what type of B&M coaster you should build, I'd suggest one of their traditional sitdown mega-loopers, Like Kumba at Busch Gardens Tampa. There's nothing else like that within THOUSANDS of miles of Texas, and they should be much cheaper than any of the other types, because most parks are building the newer types, like floorless, flying, and inverted. Also, Dallas & San Antonio already have inverteds, and San Antonio already has a floorless, so a multi-looping coaster with traditional sitdown trains would be the most radically DIFFERENT type of B&M that you could possibly build here. And besides that, their newer sitdown "speed" trains are basically a floorless train with a floor, so even though it doesn't sound like a coaster with traditional trains would be that different and exciting, the GP's reaction to these newer trains is EXTREMELY favorable! Just take a look at what people are saying about Wildfire at Silver Dollar City, the first new B&M coaster to debut the newer model of the "speed" trains. EVERYONE absolutely LOVES that ride, and it only has 5 inversions! You should be able to build something along those lines for $12 million very easily!
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*** This post was edited by irondraggon on 9/22/2001. ***
A B&M sitdown, and a B&M Dive Machine. That would be some very attractive attraction. And with those 2 the park would Profit quite a bit.
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Titan Laps : 16
Anyone know where I can see pictures of Kumba ?
and does any one know how much $$$ Kumba cost ?
RCDB you can get pics of kumba i'm not sure if it has te price.
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Raging Bull, Don't Fight It, Ride It
Or any layout picutres of kumba ?
How much $$$ did Dragon Khan cost ? how much would it be now days ?
You know, doing just a little research by yourself (I know its
really tough) might help you find your answer.
Call me when you win Powerball...
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