10 easy ways to enhance your Goliath ride!!!
ROS's fourth hill at SFNE is even more vicious air then the other two ROS's third hill. Thats my opinion.
Coasterman Mike - who would hop aboard ROS any day of the week
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Total rides on Phantom's Revenge: 49
Total rides on Pittfall: 255
Total rides on Superman:UE : 633
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Oh and my number 1 wood (The Legend, no duh!) and number 2 wood (Lightning Racer) only have some level of twisted-ness as a common trait. For some reason though, I cant really get down with the out and backs.
lata,
jeremy
--who felt a moment of intensity in the upwards helix of NITRO
But, before it gets closed, I might as well throw my two cents in. Goliath and S:ROS SFA are both at the bottom of my hypers list (S:ROS a bit above G) out of PR, MF, Mag, AC, Nitro, S:ROS SFNE, Steel Force because it just made me sick. I rode it 3x (one in front, two in back) and I couple hardly stumble my way off it by the end of the third. Both Goliath and S:ROS SFA have way too much spinning, which I would never take over even the smallest pop of airtime.
I started with AC and haven't been back in a few years, so I probably had an inflated view of it, but it has 825' of drops and I'm an airtime whore, so maybe not, but IIRC it has a ton of air of both floater and ejector (ejector mostly on the last few drops). This was pre-third drop trim, so maybe it changed a little bit. Anyways, I don't think B&M's lack ejector air, but they do lack hugely intense positives which I can live without.
I really think PR is the top of the heap as far as hypers go (Don't say it's not a hyper, because I don't care) for the same reason I liked Talon the best of all the B&M inverts. The pacing of the forces. It switched between positives, negatives and laterals, instead of just doing one then the other (S:ROS SFNE, Goliath)
So in conclusion, I didn't like Goliath because it wasn't a good mix of sensations. I also really didn't like the hard plastic seats. The B&M speed coach seats are head and shoulders above the Intamin, Gio, Morgan, or Arrow.
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Legendary Have you even ever Rode Goliath. Its longer than 50 seconds buddy.
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There are a few ejector moments on the Beemers (Bull's first drop, third hill, block drop, AC's block drop, last drop, Nitro's block and bunnies) but for the most part, they offer extended periods of floating high off the seat.
Intamin's feature hurtful ejector airtime, but I've never ever been overwhelmed with the +G's on an Intamin hyper...probably the worst is bottom of MF first drop. I've never had anything in the SRoS helices (any of them). I think the one thing Intamin has over B&M is the fact they can, for the most part, sustain the speed over the tops of the hills. Bull and AC lose quite a bit of speed at the top. Nitro, imo, never loses speed, it feels fast the whole way through, and I must admit it surprised me.
About the track lengths, that is a HUGE part of my love for the B&M's, SRoS SFNE, MF. They are like a great story, they have beginnings, middles, and endings (and what endings they have!). Goliath, Titan, and for the most part, the Morgans, missed out on the middles.
One thing I should also mention about my hyper likings (I think I've mentioned this before somewhere but I forget)...the reason I love the B&M's are because of the abundance of larger hills. I would rather fall the 190' on Nitro's second hill than blast over the 4th camelback on SRoS SFNE. That's just my preference. On the Gio's you go down a big hill, up high, down low, and stay low. Doesn't appeal to me (same with the length/heighth ratio).
DWeaver, I've never seen the creampuff term thrown around before, I think you've created something there. :)
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"That's BS you MF! They're WT!" -- CP's R&D team
B&M's feel the best when the trains are below the track.
Don't get me wrong, i really do adore the b&m hypers, but i still prefer the feel of the other brands out there. There's just something about Goliath that feels a lot more......meaty to me, if you get my drift.
And actually, i agree with the fan's of Goliath's straight hill. Its the most wonderful, sustained float on any coaster i have ever experienced. It blows away anything Intimin has ever done.
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Father Lucifer, you never looked so sane. You did always did prefer the drizzle to the rain
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john peck said:
I don't compare anything to Magnum....you don't mess with perfection, but Phantom comes really close.....
Oh goodness, then that wouldn't work wouldn't it? Magnum isn't perfection, not even 100 miles close. The ride is rough, has not aged well, has terrible lap-bar restraints, and has sharp-topped angular camel back hills that send your whole body weight slamming into the restraint which is painful airtime, not enjoyable.
But I'd still rather be on Phantom's Revenge ;)
Oh and for the record, the airtime on the Intamins I've ridden (SFA, Millie) didnt hurt at all. The stop on S:UE did though *ouch*
jeremy
--immensly enjoying this "You Suck"-less thread
IntaminAG1@school said:
Legendary Have you even ever Rode Goliath.
Only nine times. I thought I stated that already?
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Its longer than 50 seconds buddy.
I'm assuming you're having trouble with the term "drop to stop." As soon as the entire train clears Goliath's lift, start your watch. As soon as it hits the service brakes (the first brakes it enters after completing the rides course) stop your watch. It will not be longer than fifty seconds.
You seem to be very defensive of Goliath. Why? How does my, or anyone else's opinion of the ride affect you in any way? When you get a little older, you'll see that other peoples' opinions shouldn't matter much to you when it comes to favorite coasters.
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"That's BS you MF! They're WT!" -- CP's R&D team
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Actually someone over at URC came up with the term creampuff when reviewing Medusa a few years ago. I couldn't stop laughing when I heard this because it's such an accurate dicription of most B&M's. They're like angel-food cake. Light, fluffy, delicious and they don't have a mean bone in their body. But they also tend to evaporate 10 minutes after you've ridden them. Of course that's just my opinion, and I'm speaking mainly of their hypers and floorless coasters.
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Father Lucifer, you never looked so sane. You did always did prefer the drizzle to the rain
Well i've never ridden Goliath but I will chime in on Intamin vs B&M. Having ridden both Apollo and SROS I would have to go with Apollo. For me SROS was nothing more than a nice drop followed by a super slow rolling hill into some helixes (which are a waste of track IMO), over a very nice ejector camel back hill (there's that ejection word again...ooops I did it again), and into more wasted track of boring, boring helixes. Finally SROS heads into the bunny hop sections and slams into the station (hehe..i'm tired sorry guys). For me the experience on Apollo was much more intense and only had one slow area the whole ride. SROS could have been a great ride if not for the slow second hill which was devoid of any neg G's, and wasted time going in a circle. My vote.. B&M.
I hope to get my ride on w/Goliath and X this May (crossing fingers). Ok i've said enough useless stuff. Blah.
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Jeremy, you sound like a postive-G freak to me. I love the positives too - you will LOVE Goliath's helix, I promise...makes the helices on RoS seem stretched out!
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